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Perth Australia

So I've heard some mixed opinions on this, my friends and I have always played it as the troops choice and their DT count as one troops choice, so in theory an Ork Warboss and 2 squads of boyz in trucks could be deployed.

Is this correct?

If not is there an FAQ or specific rule i can be pointed at.

Cheers,

Stooge
   
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Its 'units' not 'choices' or 'slots'. There is a page in the rulebook where it says transports are treated as separate units in all respects. Don't have it on me but its on one of the pages just before the diagrams of the missions.

So in your case its a Warboss + a boy mob in a trukk, or warboss + 2 trukks, or warboss + 2 boy mobs.

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Ghostfacekillah has it right, the DoW deployment allows you to deploy 1HQ unit and 2 troop units. A squad of boys is 1 unit, the transport is a second unit, for them to count as a single unit the transport would have to maintain coherency with a squad and be restricted to firing at the same target as the boys, that and it would be impossible for the transport to embark upon itself so the universe would implode if your boys squad attempted to embark. -TheAvengingKnee
 
   
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Ghostfacekillah has it right, the DoW deployment allows you to deploy 1HQ unit and 2 troop units. A squad of boys is 1 unit, the transport is a second unit, for them to count as a single unit the transport would have to maintain coherency with a squad and be restricted to firing at the same target as the boys, that and it would be impossible for the transport to embark upon itself so the universe would implode if your boys squad attempted to embark.

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Note that imperial guard have an exception to this, granted by errata, that allows an entire platoon to be deployed in place of a single unit
   
Made in gr
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Here you go again, trying to impose your view on others.

The issue of the platoon and DoW is debated here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424528.page and here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/423740.page.


   
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copper.talos wrote:Here you go again, trying to impose your view on others.

The issue of the platoon and DoW is debated here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424528.page and here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/423740.page.

Actually, there is no debate that all the squads can deploy in DoW as a single "choice".
The only debate is if the Chimeras are also deployed.

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Huge Bone Giant





Oakland, CA -- U.S.A.

There are exceptions to most rules.
Generally speaking though, Ghostfacekillah has it right.


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copper.talos wrote:Here you go again, trying to impose your view on others.

The issue of the platoon and DoW is debated here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424528.page and here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/423740.page.


Not only that, but the statement (by nosferatu1001) is patently true and not even mentioning the transports.

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The thread is named ""DoW deployment and dedicated transports", isn't it?

Do we really need a 3rd thread debating this?
   
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No, in fact I was the one that asked that your debate argument be left out of the second one that was supposed to be a poll.

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"It is not the bullet with your name on it that should worry you, it's the one labeled "To whom it may concern. . ."

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No one was debating whether or not Chimeras are part of the platoon here. The OP asked about Orks with Trukks. That question was answered, and someone mentioned that you get 1 HQ unit, and 2 Troop units. nos then mentioned that IG are an exception to the rule in that instead of a troop unit, they can field an entire platoon. After that you copper, decided to try arguing with nos on yet a third thread that Chimeras are not part of the platoon, when no one has said they are in relation to the current topic.

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Just so the OP has a source to site it's the Main Rule Book p93 (under the DOW illustration). It says that the transport counts as a second troop unit (since, presumably it was bought by the troop unit that is also on the board).
   
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Why would someone (involved in a heated debate regarding adding chimeras to a platoon regarding DoW deployment) post in a thread about dedicated transports and DoW that a platoon is an exception to DoW allowing you to deploy 1HQ unit and 2 troop units? Hmmm tough call...

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copper.talos wrote:Why would someone (involved in a heated debate regarding adding chimeras to a platoon regarding DoW deployment) post in a thread about dedicated transports and DoW that a platoon is an exception to DoW allowing you to deploy 1HQ unit and 2 troop units? Hmmm tough call...

Ok, I get now why YOU did it. . . .

"It is not the bullet with your name on it that should worry you, it's the one labeled "To whom it may concern. . ."

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Buffalo, NY

Because he was referring to the post about 1 HQ and 2 Troop limit. He was not the one who brought up Chimeras.

Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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No he said that a platoon is an exception to the 1hq 2 troop units when deploying dedicated transports in DoW.

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Buffalo, NY

TheAvengingKnee wrote:Ghostfacekillah has it right, the DoW deployment allows you to deploy 1HQ unit and 2 troop units.

nosferatu wrote:Note that imperial guard have an exception to this, granted by errata, that allows an entire platoon to be deployed in place of a single unit

Nowhere is nos claiming that Chimeras are part of a platoon. He is simply informing the OP that IG have an exception to the Troop unit limitation. So to use your quote:
Here you go again, trying to impose your view on others.

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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
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Look at the title of the thread to get the bigger picture....
   
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no idea

nosferatu1001 wrote:Note that imperial guard have an exception to this, granted by errata, that allows an entire platoon to be deployed in place of a single unit


Happyjew wrote:After that you copper, decided to try arguing with nos on yet a third thread that Chimeras are not part of the platoon, when no one has said they are in relation to the current topic.

Oh please, you mean that's not what was being claimed there???
So to make a statement about a topic as if it were gospel, while that issue is hotly debated, is fine.
But, notifying the op that there are dissenting voices is not.

Who started what here and why exactly is it there seem to be such double-standards in operation among the members of this site???

You wart-ridden imbeciles! 
   
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Copper - Or, perhaps, you coudl avoid trolling other threads and imposing your entirely unfounded views on others?

Alternatively your paranoia is rather telling.

I was dealing with the statement about 1 hq and 2 troop units, and pointing out IG have an exception to this.

Go away and troll elsewhere

"fuusa" (highly inappropriate name, btw, and shocking behaviour from you so far) - if youre that dishonest to entirely remove context (i was DIRECTLY answering a post about the general rule of 1 hq unit and 2 troop unit by providing additional information) then perhaps you should not be so quick to talk about unethical behaviour on the part of others.

Edited to add in names, as apparenty fuusa couldnt help but post yet more irrelevancies into a thread where it is not needed.

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