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So, I was watching my friends play a game the other day. Eldar vs. BA.
Some Terminators assaulted one of his Falcons and obviously came in to contact when they
were up against his hull.
Then the Eldar assaulted his Storm Raven, but, as the Raven was attached to it's oval flying base,
we were wondering how one resolves when a model is in "base contact" with the Raven.
Do you only get to assault a Raven once your model is in base contact with the oval base, or should you measure from the hull?
If you measure from the hull, do you need to take the Raven off it's base to do so? How do you guys resolve this?

Oh dear god.... those damn OP marines have followed me to fantasy! After the warptime nerf with the recent FAQ i decided to run to fantasy to hide from the damn loyal marines but looks like they have invaded my fantasy realm as well :(.

Also wrong forum mate.

Edit: The answer is the oval base counts as its base for disembarking/assaulting purposes, if you manage to surround the oval base and wreck it all of it's cargo dies since it can't deploy.

Wait, what? How is this the wrong forum? "You make da call" is for rules questions right? Or am I missing something?

Also, what was the first part of your post about? I have no idea how that has anything to do with my question.

Also, If anyone else might have a supporting answer?

You use the oval base.

As an aside, based on Yayula's first line, you may have accidentally dropped this thread into the WHFB YMDC forum and it might have been moved by a moderator.

As Avatar720 said.

Refer to page 71 in the main rulebook, last sentence under 'measuring distances'.

This is in the IG FAQ,but the question actually refers to the base itself:

Q. How do you treat the Valkyrie base for gaming?
Due to its height it seems that it is impossible for a
Valkyrie to contest an objective, or for troops to
disembark/embark normally. (p56)
A. Follow the rules in Measuring Distances in the
Skimmers section in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook
with the following exception: For the purposes of
contesting objectives and embarking/disembarking
from a Valkyrie or Vendetta, measure to and from the
model’s base. For example, models wishing to embark
within a Valkyrie can do so if at the end of their
movement, all models within the unit are within 2" of
the Valkyrie’s base.

Avatar 720 wrote: As an aside, based on Yayula's first line, you may have accidentally dropped this thread into the WHFB YMDC forum and it might have been moved by a moderator.

Ok, now it makes sense. I might have.

So, with this settled, does that mean that the Raven has a shooting advantage at all? Not being able to assault something for what looks to be an extra two to three inches beyond where the weapon points are seems to favor the Raven. Or is it the fact that it has to shoot DOWN the additional inches that evens it out?

You CAN assault it, was the point.

matphat wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote: As an aside, based on Yayula's first line, you may have accidentally dropped this thread into the WHFB YMDC forum and it might have been moved by a moderator.

Ok, now it makes sense. I might have.

So, with this settled, does that mean that the Raven has a shooting advantage at all? Not being able to assault something for what looks to be an extra two to three inches beyond where the weapon points are seems to favor the Raven. Or is it the fact that it has to shoot DOWN the additional inches that evens it out?

It more or less evens out. The big downside of being up on the crazy big flying base is being unable to get cover from almost anything.

BTW, the Stormraven entry in the codex actually says everything that IG FAQ says about the Vendetta. They published BA after they had written that IG FAQ, so the SR entry actually explains itself.

Isn't it technically impossible to assault a Falcon, what with it's tiny base?

You're allowed to assault the base or the hull. If you encounter a player who posits that it is impossible to assault because the hull is slightly higher than your base, but blocks your model from making contact with the Falcon's base, I recommend not playing with them.

The most common way to resolve that dilemma is simply to permit the assault if the base of the assaulting model reaches the edge of the hull from a top-down view. Stormravens and Vendettas get a different rule.