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2012/01/25 10:15:07
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Not counting the Primarchs of the missing Legions.
If the 'Missing' Primarchs, Leman Russ, Vulcan, Jaghati Khan and Corax, were to return to the IoM.
What would happen and how would they be treated and received by the Imperium as a whole and their respective Chapters.
I mean they have been gone for a long time and some left without any explanation as to where they were going and why.
It's almost like a parent running out on their children I suppose
Any thoughts
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"You strive for victory. That is obvious. What may be less obvious is the nature of victory. There are circumstances in which you can destroy the enemy utterly, without loss to your own forces, and yet the victory may be his. In all situations, you must first decide on the nature of victory, and then take steps to secure it. Avoid the instinct of fight first and think later." ( Leman Russ ) |
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2012/01/25 10:28:51
Subject: Re:What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Probably they will return to lead the chapter formed from their legion and maybe their succesors.
Other chapters would honor the primarchs, but still want to stick with their own primarchs, but search harder for them because the chance another primarch would return would increase in their eyes.
The IG and the like would of course honor them, but not as much as the marines, because primarchs don't mean as much to them as to marines.
The Inquisition would probably declare them heretic or so for being absent of battle so long.
The primarchs themselves would probably go killing some Xenos with their chapters.
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2012/01/25 10:33:36
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Well if Russ ever returns it means the galaxy is doomed so it wouldn't matter.
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2012/01/25 12:13:50
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Well if Ward is to be believed, the primarchs would be ignored because Guilliman's tactics are so much better than theirs.
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2012/01/25 12:19:41
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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They wouldn't be missing anymore
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No pity, no remorse, no shoes |
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2012/01/25 14:00:40
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Portsmouth
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Pilau Rice wrote:They wouldn't be missing anymore
.......................Your a quick one arn't you?
They always say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
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"You strive for victory. That is obvious. What may be less obvious is the nature of victory. There are circumstances in which you can destroy the enemy utterly, without loss to your own forces, and yet the victory may be his. In all situations, you must first decide on the nature of victory, and then take steps to secure it. Avoid the instinct of fight first and think later." ( Leman Russ ) |
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2012/01/25 14:05:41
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Or they say, "well played Mr Rice, I chuckled".
Nonetheless, I think their Chapters would (at least for the vast majority of the Marines) welcome their primarchs back with open arms, whilst those with positions of power may be more reluctant and hesitant about their return, such as the High Lords and even Inquisition, particularly as the Primarchs had been missing for so long and they operated under a radically different Imperium (largely).
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2012/01/25 14:22:03
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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81Northman wrote:
.......................Your a quick one arn't you?
Apparently, yes
81Northman wrote:They always say that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit
Do they, well i never 
OT I am in accordance with Dave, some would be happy to see them return, others not so much. High Lords don't always like to share power. Space Marine jealousy might cause some factions to bicker and possibly fight. I can imagine the Ultramarines and their descendants not being happy they aren't so much the poster boys anymore.
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2012/01/25 16:27:50
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Pilau Rice wrote:They wouldn't be missing anymore
Hahahaha xDDD I don't know why I'm laughing so hard about this 
I guess if the missing Primarchs returned some bureaucrats in the Imperial administration would be like "ooooooooh sh****************************t" since I'm pretty sure the Primarchs wouldn't be too happy with the Inquisition and how the Imperium is being run. Being second only to the Emperor I guess they would have a lot of authority... but then again I am no fluff expert
Other than that I don't think too much would change. Primarchs are very good combatants, but even when they were around most battles went as normal so don't think there would be a great difference other than that they might heavily criticize some points of the Imperium...
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AreTwo wrote: this list is dangerously cheesy, so much so that you might have been playing Chester Cheeto in disguise.
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2012/01/25 16:46:56
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Pilau Rice wrote:OT I am in accordance with Dave, some would be happy to see them return, others not so much. High Lords don't always like to share power. Space Marine jealousy might cause some factions to bicker and possibly fight. I can imagine the Ultramarines and their descendants not being happy they aren't so much the poster boys anymore.
As you should be. 
I don't think the Ultramarines will care though; they're not exactly the poster boys in the actual 40K universe and nor can I imagine they really want to be. I think they'll be fairly happy if the Primarchs return, providing they keep to Chapters and don't try to reinvent Legions; I can't imagine they'll be too surprised if the general tactics of the Codex Astartes are somewhat ignored though.
I'd imagine Primarchs could have a dramatic effect on the power of the Imperium, be it simply morale or otherwise; not only are they practically demi-gods, but they were genetically engineered to be incredible tacticians.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2012/01/25 17:12:03
Subject: Re:What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Probably cause a small civil war that got themselves and their chapter obliterated.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
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2012/01/25 17:45:44
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Leman Russ: World ends (as per fluff)
Vulcan: Salamanders now have nothing to do (no longer looking for their primarch), they get fat and lazy
Jaghati Khan: The biker gangs on Terra rise to power
Corax: No one really carred about a bad Poe reference anyways
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2012/01/25 17:54:49
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Don't forget about the Lion- who is supposedly slumbering deep inside of the Rock. Which is ironic because the "person" the Dark Angels are looking for most (other than Fallen Angels) is right under their feet.
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2012/01/26 09:52:03
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Portsmouth
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Ignatius wrote:Don't forget about the Lion- who is supposedly slumbering deep inside of the Rock. Which is ironic because the "person" the Dark Angels are looking for most (other than Fallen Angels) is right under their feet.
Sorry all you DA fans, I completly forgot about the Lion, how I will never know, being a SW fan and all. But yes it is quite baffling that the DA, much like the Ultramarines, have their Primarch right under their noses.
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"You strive for victory. That is obvious. What may be less obvious is the nature of victory. There are circumstances in which you can destroy the enemy utterly, without loss to your own forces, and yet the victory may be his. In all situations, you must first decide on the nature of victory, and then take steps to secure it. Avoid the instinct of fight first and think later." ( Leman Russ ) |
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2012/01/26 10:06:54
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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81Northman wrote:Ignatius wrote:Don't forget about the Lion- who is supposedly slumbering deep inside of the Rock. Which is ironic because the "person" the Dark Angels are looking for most (other than Fallen Angels) is right under their feet.
Sorry all you DA fans, I completly forgot about the Lion, how I will never know, being a SW fan and all.
But yes it is quite baffling that the DA, much like the Ultramarines, have their Primarch right under their noses.
And the Imperial Fists. They have their Primarch right under their amber. I mean noses.
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I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member. -Groucho Marx
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2012/01/26 10:12:23
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh
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Just Dave wrote:Pilau Rice wrote:OT I am in accordance with Dave, some would be happy to see them return, others not so much. High Lords don't always like to share power. Space Marine jealousy might cause some factions to bicker and possibly fight. I can imagine the Ultramarines and their descendants not being happy they aren't so much the poster boys anymore.
As you should be.
I don't think the Ultramarines will care though; they're not exactly the poster boys in the actual 40K universe and nor can I imagine they really want to be. I think they'll be fairly happy if the Primarchs return, providing they keep to Chapters and don't try to reinvent Legions; I can't imagine they'll be too surprised if the general tactics of the Codex Astartes are somewhat ignored though.
I'd imagine Primarchs could have a dramatic effect on the power of the Imperium, be it simply morale or otherwise; not only are they practically demi-gods, but they were genetically engineered to be incredible tacticians.
I don't know, the Ultras are supposedly what every space marine chapter want to be like, even those that don't. I can imagine the Ultras getting the hump a bit if the spot light wasn't on them anymore. a case of' wah you got your Primarch left and ours is in a jar'.
81Northman wrote:Ignatius wrote:Don't forget about the Lion- who is supposedly slumbering deep inside of the Rock. Which is ironic because the "person" the Dark Angels are looking for most (other than Fallen Angels) is right under their feet.
Sorry all you DA fans, I completly forgot about the Lion, how I will never know, being a SW fan and all.
But yes it is quite baffling that the DA, much like the Ultramarines, have their Primarch right under their noses.
The Dark Angels do have problems with finding things, you know, like Luther and the other Fallen ...
Guilliman though is in a glorified fish tank on Macragge for all to see.
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And the Imperial Fists. They have their Primarch right under their amber. I mean noses.
Noses, they definitely had a hand in it though
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2012/01/26 11:15:01
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
Portsmouth
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Pilau Rice wrote:Just Dave wrote:Pilau Rice wrote:OT I am in accordance with Dave, some would be happy to see them return, others not so much. High Lords don't always like to share power. Space Marine jealousy might cause some factions to bicker and possibly fight. I can imagine the Ultramarines and their descendants not being happy they aren't so much the poster boys anymore.
As you should be. I don't think the Ultramarines will care though; they're not exactly the poster boys in the actual 40K universe and nor can I imagine they really want to be. I think they'll be fairly happy if the Primarchs return, providing they keep to Chapters and don't try to reinvent Legions; I can't imagine they'll be too surprised if the general tactics of the Codex Astartes are somewhat ignored though. I'd imagine Primarchs could have a dramatic effect on the power of the Imperium, be it simply morale or otherwise; not only are they practically demi-gods, but they were genetically engineered to be incredible tacticians.
I don't know, the Ultras are supposedly what every space marine chapter want to be like, even those that don't. I can imagine the Ultras getting the hump a bit if the spot light wasn't on them anymore. a case of' wah you got your Primarch left and ours is in a jar'. 81Northman wrote:Ignatius wrote:Don't forget about the Lion- who is supposedly slumbering deep inside of the Rock. Which is ironic because the "person" the Dark Angels are looking for most (other than Fallen Angels) is right under their feet.
Sorry all you DA fans, I completly forgot about the Lion, how I will never know, being a SW fan and all. But yes it is quite baffling that the DA, much like the Ultramarines, have their Primarch right under their noses.
The Dark Angels do have problems with finding things, you know, like Luther and the other Fallen ... Guilliman though is in a glorified fish tank on Macragge for all to see. ShatteredBlade wrote:
And the Imperial Fists. They have their Primarch right under their amber. I mean noses.
Noses, they definitely had a hand in it though
lololol i cant help it any longer, I suppose Corax was like the Dad, running out on his kids, Vulcan decided to make a crazy Easter egg chase for his kids, Leman Russ took the Dogs for a walk, Jaghatai Khan tried to sort out Anti Social Behaviour on his estate and the Lion blew his house up and then just to try and forget about it got his head down somewhere in the rubble. While all this was going on some of the brothers turned to a life of crime with the IoM imposing ASBO's on them (Traitor Legions). Whilst the other pillars of the community either got themselves put in glass case that reads 'Break Glass Only in the Event of War' (Rowboat Girlyman), while the other cut his hand off at work, but due to health and safety laws got told to keep quiet for some compensation. (Rogal Dorn) To top it all off, the Monarch is now too frail to do anything other than sit on his backside and claim off of the hardworking taxpayer.
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"You strive for victory. That is obvious. What may be less obvious is the nature of victory. There are circumstances in which you can destroy the enemy utterly, without loss to your own forces, and yet the victory may be his. In all situations, you must first decide on the nature of victory, and then take steps to secure it. Avoid the instinct of fight first and think later." ( Leman Russ ) |
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2012/01/28 08:55:06
Subject: Re:What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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2012/01/28 08:59:06
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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^agreed.
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Veteran Sergeant wrote:In the grim darkness of the far future, the guy with a rifle is the weakest man on the battlefield, left to quake in terror, hoping the two or three shots he gets do the job before somebody runs screaming across the battlefield to hit him with an energized stick.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/440996.page
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2012/01/29 01:25:20
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Simple
The Inquisition would get them. Upon arrival, Inquisitors with the support of the grey knights and SoB would make it their number one priority to capture them.
After all, where have they been? The eye of terror of course. All would be viewed with more than a little bit of suspicion. If they went willingly, then they could possibly earn a quick death .. After the appropriate interrogation of course.
If they fought back, they would immediately be branded as heretics and more than a few chapters of marines would happily go after them. This wouldn't end well, but the result would be the same: capture, torture, interrogation. Rinse and repeat as necessary.
Assuming they were actually still loyal, the smartest thing for them would be to stay gone.
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2012/01/29 01:28:52
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Hauptmann
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The return of the Primarchs is a sign of the Rhana Dandra, the day all Eldar die along with every other sentient race in the final battle against Chaos.
After the battle is over, and Fuegan has finally fallen then Chaos will be defeated and the galaxy can start over again, free from the temptation of the Dark Gods.
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2012/01/29 13:27:19
Subject: What would happen to the Missing Primarch's upon returning?
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Primarch would start fighting against chaos but that would just lure the ultimate enemy, orks.
Imperium and forces of chaos would find themselves fighting the biggest WAAAGH! ever seen. Imperium, Chaos, Eldar, Necrons, Tyranids, Tau would all be washed away by tide of gore.
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Every time I hear "in my opinion" or "just my opinion" makes me want to strangle a puppy. People use their opinions as a shield that other poeple can't critisize and that is bs.
If you can't defend or won't defend your opinion then that "opinion" is bs. Stop trying to tip-toe and defend what you believe in. |
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