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Does any one know of a Artilery company list for FOW.If their is one,What book.I am trying to put together a 173 artilery company list for a friend.He was with them in IRaq and Afanistan.For him it is all about the 105 and 155 Howitzer.

No artillery companies in FoW as far as I know. You can field 105s and 155s in a US infantry force though.

col. krazy kenny wrote:Does any one know of a Artilery company list for FOW.If their is one,What book.I am trying to put together a 173 artilery company list for a friend.He was with them in IRaq and Afanistan.For him it is all about the 105 and 155 Howitzer.

There are none. You don't take ground and dislodge enemy with artillery. They are a support weapon only. The artillery softens up the enemy so that the ground forces can move in and push them off.

Mind you with some of the british and russian lists you can get a lot of guns on the table, but they are still only supporting another force.

Skriker

Well, while the above posters are technically right, you cannot take Artillery as Combat PLatoons, you can min inf and max arty. SO he could go with 8 105s and 8 155s, get an AOP (assuming late war) and a few dudes to dig in and soak up assaults.. Get a mortar platoon for maximum pie plate goodness.

Brit's, take the Royal Artillery. Take the minimum Infantry. At the end of the day most Artillery firebases have a defence platoon of REMF's. You could always take a Recce List, and beef it up with lots of Arty, that would be useful for spotting.

mwnciboo wrote:You could always take a Recce List, and beef it up with lots of Arty, that would be useful for spotting.

iirc, there's a German list in Dogs and Devils that's basically this. The commander of the recon unit came from the artillery branch, and apparently tended to put lots of wespes in with his armored cars...

Good memory Eumerin, just checked and sure as sure page 56. Christ you've got a good memory, I thought about this but couldn't remember which book it was so didn't say. : ) There is an awful lot of artillery available in that Hermann Goring Division Schwere aulfkalarung list. Not sure I'd want the Fat man drug addict flyboy Nazi's personal division as my force but hey ho, nice options.

Brits for massed artillery batteries, German Hermann Goring for dropping lots of different calibre rounds and have lots of platoons of arty.

I'd Guess he'd want good Old Uncle Sam as his army...If so...hmmm let me look through the books.

EDIT - MW T19's with a 105mm on a Mech chassis, he gets 6 Howitzers in a fully battery (pg 24 Old Ironsides) or he could go for the M7 Priests.

There are alot of pack Howitzers in US lists, 6 x 75mm Pack Howitzers are not to be sniffed at, though the FP is obviously significantly lower.

LW - Turning Tide pg 185. Task Force Sugar, the elite rangers and some big gun options.
pg 200 gives 6th Armoured, lots of motorised Arty.
pg 218 Rifle company gives 3 full field Battery's of 105mm thats 12 guns in 3 Battery's at 185pts per battery!!!!!!!!!!! or throw in a 155mm for one of the 105mm and really bring the rain. (DEAR GOD THATS AMAZING - DEFINITELY THIS!)

I'd have to double-check, but iirc the US Indian Head list (2nd Infantry division, iirc), which is a PDF on Battlefront's website allows you to bombard with .50 cals, among other things.

Might be worth a look.

Also, if you're building a US Rifles list and want lots of artillery, make sure that it's got a Fire Direction Center.

Eumerin wrote:iirc, there's a German list in Dogs and Devils that's basically this. The commander of the recon unit came from the artillery branch, and apparently tended to put lots of wespes in with his armored cars...

That is a rude awakening for someone thinking they are dealing with a recon force and then suddenly find themselves eating Wespe fire.

Don't have Dogs and Devils so didn't know about this list. No Brit lists in that book.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:Don't have Dogs and Devils so didn't know about this list. No Brit lists in that book.

Skriker

I didn't get it either. I have Cassino, which is pure gold, imo (but only for the veteran player - most of the lists in that book are strange...; unless your grandfather fought with the 442nd RCT or something similar, I wouldn't get it as a first book), but I've never had any real interest in the Anzio book. I do try and keep up on what's where, though, which is why I remembered that particular list.

Speaking of Cassino (and completely off-topic...), my current project is going to involve building all of the fortifications that I'll need to run a properly entrenched Reichsgrenadier list from Cassino.

mwnciboo wrote: Not sure I'd want the Fat man drug addict flyboy Nazi's personal division as my force but hey ho, nice options.

At least you could go dancing?

Not US of A, but:

Light Self-propelled Artillery Regiment
Nearly every Soviet Army had an independent regiment of self-propelled artillery attached to provide direct fire support. The majority of the infantry formations were supported by the Light Self-Propelled Artillery Regiment outfitted with the SU-76M self-propelled artillery gun. Field a whole regiment of SU-76M assault guns. Now in Red Bear.

The Arty Regts useually mean they are classified as an assault gun for the Soviet forces. I've never looked the PDF over, so could not say if this is a dedicated Arty Regt w/ support.

Mat

Soviet self-propelled "artillery" units were typically direct fire units used strictly in an assault gun role. Those ISU-152s pack a pretty hefty punch against infantry and fixed defences, but they're not used for bombarding.

Nah, they used SU-76's in the light Assault Arty brief. Still not sure if they can use indirect/ direct fire. I'll check.

Mat


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Nope, they to are a dedicated assault gun.

However, like Eumerin stated, the next best thing to Arty is the Soviet Heavy Assault Gun Companies. And I believe they took a points drop in Red Bear as well due to being a ROF 1 weapon.

I cannot think of any dedicated Arty units, however there is this brief. It maybe up your ally: http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/Documents/Briefings/2nd-Infantry-Division.pdf

Mat

Thanks, for all of the repies.It looks like i am going to just max out my artillery batteries and use them as support for my Airborne troopers.That was the support role that he filled while on tour.

LW - Turning Tide pg 185. US Rifle company . Just have a look, it surprised the hell out of me.

I've never really looked over the US lists that much. The 2nd Armd Company list caught my eye, but I bought the book for my Canuks.

Eumerin wrote:I didn't get it either. I have Cassino, which is pure gold, imo (but only for the veteran player - most of the lists in that book are strange...; unless your grandfather fought with the 442nd RCT or something similar, I wouldn't get it as a first book), but I've never had any real interest in the Anzio book. I do try and keep up on what's where, though, which is why I remembered that particular list.

Speaking of Cassino (and completely off-topic...), my current project is going to involve building all of the fortifications that I'll need to run a properly entrenched Reichsgrenadier list from Cassino.

Right now I am trying to find the time to make the fortifications I would need to run Tobruk in EW...don't think it is going to happen any time soon.

Skriker

Skriker wrote:

Eumerin wrote:I didn't get it either. I have Cassino, which is pure gold, imo (but only for the veteran player - most of the lists in that book are strange...; unless your grandfather fought with the 442nd RCT or something similar, I wouldn't get it as a first book), but I've never had any real interest in the Anzio book. I do try and keep up on what's where, though, which is why I remembered that particular list.

Speaking of Cassino (and completely off-topic...), my current project is going to involve building all of the fortifications that I'll need to run a properly entrenched Reichsgrenadier list from Cassino.

Right now I am trying to find the time to make the fortifications I would need to run Tobruk in EW...don't think it is going to happen any time soon.

I don't think it should take me too long.

Mounting board and painted molding gel for the minefields. The same, plus toothpicks and thread for the barbed wire (there's a couple of threads in the Battlefront forums from people who have gone this completely historical route for non-coiled barbed wire that's wrapped around stakes in a field). Mounting board and painted molding gel again, plus sculpted green floral styrafoam "stuff" for the dragon's teeth. That leaves the MG nests, MG pillboxes, and 7.5cm PaK 40 pillbox, which I might just buy, and the Pantherterms (panther turrets used as static defenses), which I will definitely be buying.

Don't forget EW French.

Their Active/Colonial Fusilliers lists has the option of taking 2 4-gun batteries of the excellent 75mm mle 1897 and another battery of either 75mm, 105mm, or 155mm. Combine all this with their Quick Fire, Central Fire Control, and Trench Warfare rules and you can get a near impenetrable gun line.

ancientsociety wrote:Don't forget EW French.

Their Active/Colonial Fusilliers lists has the option of taking 2 4-gun batteries of the excellent 75mm mle 1897 and another battery of either 75mm, 105mm, or 155mm. Combine all this with their Quick Fire, Central Fire Control, and Trench Warfare rules and you can get a near impenetrable gun line.

Plus you get to mock your opponent's mercilessly for getting beaten by French

Grey Templar wrote:

ancientsociety wrote:Don't forget EW French.

Their Active/Colonial Fusilliers lists has the option of taking 2 4-gun batteries of the excellent 75mm mle 1897 and another battery of either 75mm, 105mm, or 155mm. Combine all this with their Quick Fire, Central Fire Control, and Trench Warfare rules and you can get a near impenetrable gun line.

Plus you get to mock your opponent's mercilessly for getting beaten by French

That would be some intense heckling.

Mat

Wow, and thats from a Canadian? They are closest thing to a frenchman outside of Europe.

That was uncalled for .

Mat

oh I wanted some Uk / Canuck banter......foiled again! lol

The only thing french in me is their yummy food. French fires, toast, poutin, etc....

Mat

combat engineer wrote:The only thing french in me is their yummy food. French fires, toast, poutin, etc....

Wouldn't French fires give you some serious heartburn??

I am trying to find a place locally to get a decent cassoulet. The one place that I knew about that used to offer them on their menu is no longer in business. :(

Skriker

I didn't get miniatures for Christmas. My wife bought me LeCreuset, talk about buying presents for yourself....



Wouldn't have minded except for the price of the stuff I could have bought an entire Elysium Drop Troop army from Forge world. Damn French.

Maybe my memory is a bit fuzzy, but I think there was a german list that you could theoretically replace all their half tracks with those half track artillery rocket mortar whatevers. Not exactly an artillery company though

Panzerwherfers?

That would be kinda odd with a platoons transports being turned into a rocket battery.


I think there are some companies that have variable composition in their combat plattons where some of the platoon can be changed into Mortar stands. That way you could have most of your force capable of dropping a bombardment template.