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This will be my first tornament with nids. I ran a list similar to this twise before and it worked out well. I had one loss and one draw but I feel I would have done better if I was just a little more familiar with the army. Practice makes perfect!

Swarmlord
Tyrant Guard w/ lash whip

Tervagon w/ catalyst and cluster spines

2 hive gaurd

3 zoans w/ mysetic spore

8 ygmarls

8 genestealers

16 genestealers w/toxin sacs

20 gargoyles w/ toxin sacs

Trygon

1748

The concept is pretty straight forward. Gargoyles screen the big ones. Genes outflank when they have a nice target. The smaller goup is for tying up scary units (Daemon Princes, night birnger) and also for dealing with the IG parking lot. If the zoans don't see anything worth suicide when they land near the main force and provide synapes and supporting fire. My reason for no toxin sacs or adrenal glands on the tervi is i have yet to have his spawn get into CC and i have yet to have him spawn anything past turn two. So in my eyes his is a W6 monster who provies FNP and synapes and HAPPENS to spawn gaunts.
Thoughts?

Shameless bump. In Japan, the greatest compliment an audience can give a movie is scilence. Applies to this situation?

Dakka hasnt felt too helpful for myself lately either, dont let it get you down. I think they like to ignore the semi competent looking posters for the "clearly in need of help looking lists" The lists Not bad. I personally like the Zoans but Hive guard are just SO MUCH BETTER, The FAQ they got just made them great
If i might make some suggested changes to the list?

HQ:
Swarmlord
Lash Guard

Elites:
Hiveguard x3
Hiveguard x3
Ymgarls x8

Troops
Termagants x10
Tervigon- TS, AG Catalyst, Clusterspines
Genestealers x15 TS

Heavy Support:
Trygon- AG
Trygon- AG
1749
(The Tervigon is way tougher as a troop and with the poison and furious charge benefits those gants are gonna be dealing out mean wounds. Trust me, Gargoyles are Meh on a competitive scale, too easy too kill and you'll find they'll fly out of even swarmlords 18" synapes and just get cut down or run like idiots off the board)

Feeder_of_life wrote:Dakka hasnt felt too helpful for myself lately either, dont let it get you down. I think they like to ignore the semi competent looking posters for the "clearly in need of help looking lists" The lists Not bad. I personally like the Zoans but Hive guard are just SO MUCH BETTER, The FAQ they got just made them great
If i might make some suggested changes to the list?

HQ:
Swarmlord
Lash Guard

Elites:
Hiveguard x3
Hiveguard x3
Ymgarls x8

Troops
Termagants x10
Tervigon- TS, AG Catalyst, Clusterspines
Genestealers x15 TS

Heavy Support:
Trygon- AG
Trygon- AG
1749
(The Tervigon is way tougher as a troop and with the poison and furious charge benefits those gants are gonna be dealing out mean wounds. Trust me, Gargoyles are Meh on a competitive scale, too easy too kill and you'll find they'll fly out of even swarmlords 18" synapes and just get cut down or run like idiots off the board)

Can I steal that list? I love the look of it Am about to post a couple of my own Nid lists as well, I like to have options...

The list in the OP though, I like the idea, I would actually be tempted to drop the Hive Guard, and then maybe get a second squad of Zoans (2x2 in Spores....) Keep a more reserve/outflank/infiltrate theme to the list. I think if your going Hive Guard, you go all or nothing (and by all I mean 2x 6 or 3x2, you could always go 3x3 but thats just too expensive £/$ wise).

As for not getting replies, it happens. Sometimes I try and go through the first couple of pages and comment on all the lists with 0 replies....

Yeah Man knock yourself out. I'm flattered if you do. And i also stand behind Zoanies and the Doom for that matter being Podded. I love Hive guard because of the weight they pull against all the Mechanized armies i've had been facing of late, but as for personally i like taking 3 thropes cause of the hurt they do to Marine armies. But the Hive guard are just silly good.

My friend plays nids and he has had less than stellar luck with ymgarls. pretty much what's happened to them is that he get's them on the board and they almost always get taken out before they even begin to make up their points. as for the original list, there isn't much there with actual staying power in the troops suggestion. the lists that i've seen that do well include at least 1 tervi in troops and at least 1 huge gant block

Gargoyles don't really fit the list as nothing else here can move 12". Dual trygons are always a much better fit than singles.

If running the swarmlord then I would be tempted to lose the ymgals, go 3 broods of 2 hive guard in elites and then pack 3 broods of stealers in the list. the ability to re-roll outflanking dice from the swarmlord can be huge.

Just a Quick tip for the Nids out there:

Anti-tank, Fill your list as much as you can with anti-tank creatures like Hive guard and Zoans, 2 squads Guards and a zoan is normal, and in a worst case you have 2 squads with 2 guards just to have enough to take down even the smallest walker.

Dont rely on your big creatures to take down tanks and etc. your guards and zoans is what going to make your Nids army stand against any list.

Hope this helps.

androcles138 wrote:My friend plays nids and he has had less than stellar luck with ymgarls. pretty much what's happened to them is that he get's them on the board and they almost always get taken out before they even begin to make up their points. as for the original list, there isn't much there with actual staying power in the troops suggestion. the lists that i've seen that do well include at least 1 tervi in troops and at least 1 huge gant block

It is true that Ymgarls have trouble making their points back as they are very expensive. But the benefit to me is that they probably the best distraction unit the tryanids can offer. If you choose the terrain carefuly, your opponant cannot ignore them.

Thank you all for posting means alot to me to get some feedback. A couple side questions. If a tervagon is taken as an HQ choice do the gaunts it spwans still count as scoring units? Also, where does this anamosity toward gargoyles comes from? I have had nothing but good experience with them. 20 FNP gargoyles is a dificult wall for even the most shooty of armies to kill and swarmy running in the first turn or two is more then enough to keep them in synapse. eh?


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Feeder_of_life wrote:Dakka hasnt felt too helpful for myself lately either, dont let it get you down. I think they like to ignore the semi competent looking posters for the "clearly in need of help looking lists" The lists Not bad. I personally like the Zoans but Hive guard are just SO MUCH BETTER, The FAQ they got just made them great
If i might make some suggested changes to the list?

HQ:
Swarmlord
Lash Guard

Elites:
Hiveguard x3
Hiveguard x3
Ymgarls x8

Troops
Termagants x10
Tervigon- TS, AG Catalyst, Clusterspines
Genestealers x15 TS

Heavy Support:
Trygon- AG
Trygon- AG
1749
(The Tervigon is way tougher as a troop and with the poison and furious charge benefits those gants are gonna be dealing out mean wounds. Trust me, Gargoyles are Meh on a competitive scale, too easy too kill and you'll find they'll fly out of even swarmlords 18" synapes and just get cut down or run like idiots off the board)

So this list looks scary on paper. I am wondering what the MCs are getting cover from. Thats really the point of the gargoyles in my original list.