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1500 pt tourney coming up in a month or so and I'm going to play my new Tyranid army. I haven't been doing to bad with it.

Option #1(2 x Warrior Star)

Hive Tyrant...............................250
Armoured Shell, 2 x TL Devourer w/ Brainleech worms, Adrenal Glands, Paroxysm, and Leech essence

Tyranid Prime.........................100
Adrenal Glands,Twin Boneswords, & Scything Talons

2 x 3 Hive Guard.....................300

Venomthrope..........................55

2 x 10 Termagants................100

Tervigon................................200
Adrenal Glands, Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons, and Catalyst

5 Warriors.............................225 (prime goes here)
5 x Twin Boneswords, Scything Talons and Adrenal Glands

6 Warriors............................270
6 x Twin Boneswords, Scything Talons and Adrenal Glands

Total: 1500
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I have found the warriorstars, as I call them, to be better than genestealers. It seems when I use genestealers they get too far ahead of the rest of my force. This list has tabled tau and blood angels and lost to space wolf missile spam(can't beat it with anything but eldar). I want to make this very competitive because I want to win my 1st tourney with tyranids. Any comments or criticism you can give will be appreciated. Thanks!

Option # 2(Fast Assault)

Hive Tyrant...........................260
Wings, 2 x TL devourer w/ brainleech worms, Paroxysm, and Leech Essence

Tervigon............................190
Toxin Sacs, Scything Talons, and Catalyst

16 Gargoyles.....................112
Toxin Sacs

19 Hormagants................152
Toxin Sacs

2 x 12 Genestealers........336

2 x 2 Hive Guard...............200

Trygon Prime...................250
Adrenal Glands

Total :1500
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I originally had this list with 2 x 14 genestealers and 15 devil gaunts but I changed it to where I had 2 x 2 Hive Guard for AT. Without them I would have very little AT. The tervigon may seem out of place but it is there to spawn termagants to go capture objectives. Depending on the opponent I'll probably run the trygon prime on the table because I don't trust non-modified reserve rolls. Let me know what you guys think this list probably needs alot of work but it just might end up more competitive than the warrior star list. Thanks for all of your comments.

The warriors are illegal. They must all have the same equipment (except for the one heavy weapon guy).

Agree. Warriors are illegal. List up to then was fine though, although I would try to get a tyrant guard for the tyrant.

Not sure on so many warriors,especially for a tournament environment. There could be a lot of S8 weapons out there.

I'm very sorry about the warriors but the other options weren't meant for shooting or anything they were meant purely for wound allocation. My brother pointed out I could do some of those shinanigans and I didn't look and see if they all had to have the same wargear. Sorry for the confusion.

I haven't found a tyrant guard necessary. With the venomthrope the hive tyrant is pretty much a T6 W4 terminator. I could drop one warrior from the squad of 6 and drop adrenal glands on the tyrant and the prime to get one with a lashwhip. That's a very good idea if it ends up people start targeting him more.

The only army I've had trouble with so far is my brother's Space Wolf Missile spam and thats the most str 8 weapons any army could possible through at me. None of the lists I can come up with for tyranids can bring it down. If I bring genestealers they either get frag missiled or charge before the rest of my army, wipe one squad then die. I think that I use better tactics when I use warriors and I don't want to make this list against space wolves because my brother usually doesn't play in the tournaments.

Thanks for finding the error in my list. Any more comments or criticism you dakkites can give will be much appreciated.

IMHO i'd drop the warriors in total. Reason being that in todays mech heavy meta the amount of AT weapons (which will tool the warriors quite nicely) means they will die lots and accomplish not much. Also, i'd up the gaunt squads, grubblies aren't all that good unless you take them in big squads. Also, i'd drop the prime, change the tyrant to a flyrant, and take some gargoyles to help him.

Dropping warriors and prime would free up 595 points. With that i'd fill out gaunt squads, and pick up a trygon. then after changing tyrant to a flyrant, get a small gargoyle squad to help him, and it should help you get a little more punch. the problem is that if you make a nid list based mostly around shooting you will lose.

i`ve been having a lot of success with my nids of late here`s a few of my thoughts for you.

I`m not a fan of the tyrant at less than 2k and without a guard i wouldnt take it at all unless he had wings that is. I love my prime he`s the first pick of hq everytime for me. I think you would be better served by sticking him with a gun unit of warriors with B/S. This way they get the full benefit of his rule.

Youve just gotta love H/G, this is what i`m aiming for 2x3. Venomthrope is handy but i`ve never used one, so i cant really say much about it. No zoans? Dont see that often these days. H/G will only go so far ive found. If you aint taking zoans i`d consider a HVC on the tyrant if he`s walking.

So far i`ve found that if youre having a tervigon thier is no point in having normal gaunts, why buy them when the tervigon makes them for free. As soon as i put my dev-gaunts in my army i started winning games. For me these guys are the best value unit in the book (except for gargoyles). Even at 10pts a bug. The tervigon itself seems to be almost priceless these days. Trust me on the d-gaunts, with 15 bug units(45xs4), i`ve seen them chew through paladins and any thing else thats been put in range of them so far.

I`m not a fan of warriors in general, but i do love the models themselves, they tend to get done in quite a lot these days. Thier seems to be more effective/efficient units in the book. I think you should at most have 1 unit but i would give them and the prime d-spitters for a bit more suppression fire while on the move.

i disagree with androcles138 when he says if you build a list around shooting you will lose. Mine is built with a solid core of shooty troops and its been kickin some serious butt. But i wholeheartedly agree with him when he says to get a trygon, but i`d swap it for the tyrant instead of taking it as well as. Him or the tyrant but never both at 1.5k.

If possible i would lose the second , 6bug warrior unit, 1 other warrior. For these points you could get 5 raveners with r-claws and 15 gargyles with the works. these would work with the trygon better. I`ve had joy with this little trio of units working in concert.

Hope this stramash of thoughts helps in some way.

I don't have a whole lot of nids so my choices are somewhat limited. I have no raveners, zoanthropes, Hive Tyrant with wings, Gargoyles or hiveguard for that matter. I am going to pick up some hive guard soon though becuase i like them better than zoanthropes. Most armies have physchic defense and then you have to roll to hit, its not as good. I could play more of a swarm list. Devilgants 2 tervigons and little Genestealers with a trygon. One tervigon could be and hq so I would still probably have like 5 troops. Tomorrow I will make a list with your recommendations and have a poll to see which one is better. It rather sucks not having too many tyranid models. Thanks for the comments.

Nungunz wrote:The warriors are illegal. They must all have the same equipment (except for the one heavy weapon guy).

I disaggree the Carnifex has a star saying every model in the brood must take the same gear, but warriors dont. So where, point to the paragraph that says every warrior must take the same gear. as log as he marks what warrior has what weapon its fine.

broodstar wrote:

Nungunz wrote:The warriors are illegal. They must all have the same equipment (except for the one heavy weapon guy).

I disaggree the Carnifex has a star saying every model in the brood must take the same gear, but warriors dont. So where, point to the paragraph that says every warrior must take the same gear. as log as he marks what warrior has what weapon its fine.

"The brood may take..."
"The brood may replace..."
"The brood may select..."

The brood, as in, the entire brood; every model.

Have you even read the codex?

radarbabyeater wrote:

broodstar wrote:

Nungunz wrote:The warriors are illegal. They must all have the same equipment (except for the one heavy weapon guy).

I disaggree the Carnifex has a star saying every model in the brood must take the same gear, but warriors dont. So where, point to the paragraph that says every warrior must take the same gear. as log as he marks what warrior has what weapon its fine.

"The brood may take..."
"The brood may replace..."
"The brood may select..."

The brood, as in, the entire brood; every model.

Have you even read the codex?

You quoted it wrong as well it says 'The entire brood'.......And why did you have to add in that (potentially) offensive line at the end, its just pointless.

Anyway the list is going to suffer from standard Warriors being fragile against ML and Melta etc. If the Warriors get into combat, you've got a pretty solid list.
I would personally take some Gargoyles to screen the warriors (if they do give them a cover save, i'm not sure)

The gants already give him a coversave plus I have no gargoyles as stated in one of my posts above. The termagants already give the warriors a cover save and so does the venomthrope. Since so many people have recommended it I might make some paper wings or something for my gants. I don't have a very big budget as I don't have a job and I'm still in highschool so I can't really go out and buy more models at any time.

I didn't think that the warriors had to have the same option because units that do it says they do. Such as the carnifex, it specifically states that they have to have the same wargear. Anywho, there's no need to get angry over what a codex says. It's a game, have fun.

seriously dude i'd recommend anything not called warriors in the 'dex. I've seen them get wiped far to easy by any army with s8 weapons.

Helvost wrote: I didn't think that the warriors had to have the same option because units that do it says they do. .

It does 'The entire brood may replace/take' I think one of Warriors can take a different weapon (Barbed strangler or what ever its called, for example).

And if you want to use your Termagants as a shield for the Warriors, then do that. But it means you will be advancing all of your troops, all of which are pretty squishy with no Tervigon to spawn more. In multiple objective games it will work against you. And I don't think you can afford the luxury of holding your non=shooty warriors back, unless your opponent has no long ranged S8 or higher shooting.

I have enough troops to capture objectives. If I really need to I put a squad of the 10 gants on an objective and then let the tervigon spawn more for a shield and it usually works out.

I talked to the guys at my FLGS and they agreed that warriors have to have the same options so I'm going with that. I already edited the list to where they all have the same options.

I played this list today and I was able to pretty much wipe out ravenguard. I'll make the second 1500pt list to compare this one to tonight. Thanks for all of the comments

radarbabyeater wrote:

broodstar wrote:

Nungunz wrote:The warriors are illegal. They must all have the same equipment (except for the one heavy weapon guy).

I disaggree the Carnifex has a star saying every model in the brood must take the same gear, but warriors dont. So where, point to the paragraph that says every warrior must take the same gear. as log as he marks what warrior has what weapon its fine.

"The brood may take..."
"The brood may replace..."
"The brood may select..."

The brood, as in, the entire brood; every model.

Have you even read the codex?

In this context " The brood" = adressing every member of the squad has these options. Let me ask you this, why do you think the Carnifex is worded differantly? Why does the Carnifex have a star saying everybody must take the same options? You've got to pay attention to the language. .

Tervigon + TS/AG + Cat x 3
Trygon Prime + AG x 3
Termagaunts x 13
Hive guard x 2

Can't go wrong @ 1500, except vs DE venom spam

I posted a new list and put up a poll. The new list needs alot of work and I'm hoping you guys can help. Thanks for all of the comments. The new list is based off of what you guys have said.