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Made in nz
Regular Dakkanaut




Hello, I've got my first game of 5th edition in a few days using my new Kanwall army against vanilla marines. At the moment I'm thinking of using:

Big Mek - Burna + KFF 105
Big Mek - Burna + KFF 105

30 Shoota Boyz w/ 3 Big Shootas + Nob w/ PK+BP 235
30 Shoota Boyz w/ 3 Big Shootas + Nob w/ PK+BP 235
30 Shoota Boyz w/ 2Big Shootas + Nob w/ PK+BP 235

DeffKopta w/ TL RL +BS 70
DeffKopta w/ TL RL + BS 70

3x KIlla Kanz w/ RL 150
3x KIlla Kanz w/ RL 150
3x KIlla Kanz w/ RL 150

Total: 1500

The plan is to use the KFF and walk up shooting, hoping for the best once I'm in the assault, I plan to use the koptas to threaten any tanks he may have. The other models I could potentially use are:

27 Lootas
15 Grots w/ RH
80 Slugga Boyz
20 AOBR Nobz
1 Warboss
5 Deffkoptas

Thanks for your help....

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Made in ca
Hauptmann





Calgary AB, Canada

If I had to suggest anything, I would drop one of the kopta's, as well as the burna's on the meks and the big shoota's on the boyz. This free's up 150 points which would be enough to squeeze in 2 squads of 5 lootas to pop transports and the like

Just my 2 cents

 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




I think it is awesome. Good luck
   
Made in us
Savage Khorne Berserker Biker





Tampa, FL

I completely echo orkboy's suggestions. Once you do that, you have a very solid Kan Wall.

 
   
Made in nz
Regular Dakkanaut




Thanks for the tips, now that I look at it I see it doesn't make any sense to bring Big Shootas along. Cheers

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Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




I like the koptas. The kanz can walk 6'' and shoot, your boys hiding behind can move and shoot their big shootas which can soften up targets nicely when you can not wait to get across the board.

I vote for no changes.

5 lonely lootas are not so effective as they can be easily killed off and are too unreliable in shooting.
   
Made in us
Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter




Well, 10 technically, 15 pts a piece, 2 squads of 5, average 20 strength 7 shots a turn... not bad for light tank hunting/medium infantry killing.
   
Made in ca
Krazed Killa Kan




Claremont, ON

It's not 5 lonely lootas it's 2 units of 5 and their shooting though random drops light transports and skimmers with great success. Shoots fired at the lootas is shoots not fired at your kan wall. Far more reliably than a suicide kopta.

Not to mention you should be hiding your lootas from the get go giving on avg a 4-5+ cover save. Odds are they are 30 inchs away meaning missiles and lascannons (if opponent is dumb) going at lootas is great because they are not hitting your kans.

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






How about dropping the Koptas and taking the lootas? I have never had any luck with the koptas. I also don't like the burnas either on the Meks. They will die before they get to use them.

I might also just make it one squad of 10 lootas. 5 have never done enough for me.

I myself think you have to many boys. 60 is alot in 1500 Kan wall. I run 30-40 and have not had any problems with them. Then you could fit in a couple of dreads or more lootas as well. Just my opinion. Most people I play worry about the armor and lootas. They never shoot at the boys.
   
Made in ca
Hauptmann





Calgary AB, Canada

I have never seen the point of dreads in a kanwall just because it detracts from your scoring units total unless you shrink the squad sizes on the boyz, which is never a good idea

Just my 2 cents

 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






Um they have worked great in my army and I take 3 of them. They are extra armor and if taken as troops more walkers. Most can't hurt them in CC so they last longer and are really cheap. zgive them a couple of bshootas or burnas and let them go. I run bshootas as I play a shooty Ork army.

I don't see how they detract you from scoring units. You can have 4 boys squads if you need. If that is not enough to hold and objective then you are doing something wrong. I have 3 boys squads in my 2k list. It has done me well with only a couple of loses.

I guess to each there own though. But my question is have you tried them?
   
Made in ca
Hauptmann





Calgary AB, Canada

Yes I have tried them. Personally I find that I would rather have more bodies behind the kanz than dreads to add to the wall. To each his own though.

Just my 2 cents

 
   
 
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