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**A-Hivemind**

Hey there Dakka.

I've been on and off Dakka for over a year now and never made a thread so here's hopefully to the first of many!
Anyways, I have recently made the decision to start a Salamanders marine army.

I have come up with a list so far of what I would like in the army which I am aiming to be a display army with a few games thrown in here and there and I am hoping I could get the wise council of the Dakka board on it. I obviously plan on running it heavily themed with Vulkan and flamers and melta everywhere.

Vulkan
5-10 man SS/TH Terminator squad
5-10 man Terminator squad with either 2 H/Flamers or 1 H/Flamer and a AC
Dreadnought (Still not too sure what one either Ironclad or normal)
Sternguard 10-man
2 or 3 10-man Tactical squads with flamer/meltagun and Multimelta
A Landspeeder or 2 with M/melta and/or H/Bolter
Thunderfire cannon
The mandatory LRR
Finally a Devestator squad with 10 men aimed at Anti-infantry (H/Bolters and P/Cannons)

I know that I have 4 elite choices in there, but as I said it's going to be a display army.
Also, I want to know in what order or what I should buy first. I have 6 shotty terminators scrounged form brothers failed attempt at 40k and black reach giveaways.

Any and all advice, criticism and nitpicking is welcome.
Thanks Dakka!

**ElectricPaladin**

So... what do you mean by "display army" and how do you plan to play it if it isn't legal? Is this some aspect of Warhammer culture that I just haven't been exposed to yet?

**A-Hivemind**

I aim to paint it and have in on a shelf in the house/room. Therefore making it a display army.

And if I do want to play with it I just take out what ever I don't need/want in the list to make it legal/

**BaneGuard**

Are you going for a specific theme (for example, a certain company of salamanders) or are you just trying to get a good looking display army

**A-Hivemind**

I was thinking even though Vulkan can call upon the entire chapter, he has to travel around with at least some marines and equipment.

So this may be Vulkan's personal body guard? (a large body guard)

I'm also just trying to get a good looking display army going that is still playable every so often.

**Almarine**

That's a lot of stuff...

From a gameplay standpoint I can tell you that HF is a pretty crap weapon for termies. LRR is also probably the worst type of land raider, I don't think inferno cannons even get rerolls from vulkan. 10 HB/PC devastators is going to end up a waste of points in most games as well.

**BaneGuard**

If your going for vulcan bodyguard, I'd just pick a battle company and have some scouts, terminators and vehicles and you have a fairly awesome display army.

**ravenousork25**

I was going to start along a Salamander army as well. Starting with my 2 leftover assault on black reach marines boxes that I have left over ( I play orks)
Was just thinking of making it just a small battle company. Mainly waited to focus on orks.

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But love the idea of a salamander army

**A-Hivemind**

Thanks for the reply guys.
The vulkan bodyguard idea is something I'm just tossing up. I'm not too sure about it. It could also be the 4th company before Vulkan was promoted.
I'll keep thinking about it. and probably commit shameless self bumps every now and then.

**BaneGuard**

I would do 3rd or 4th, as the 3rd has the most background and company organisation to go on.

**mercer**

See this lists, they maybe some help to you.

http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2012/01/army-lists-space-marines-salamanders.html

http://www.imperiusdominatus.com/2011/12/army-lists-salamanders-melta-mash-2000.html

On the second list the guy who uses that has dropped the thunderfire cannons and a few Dreadnoughts and now uses double Hammernators - they are a royal pain in the arse.

**A-Hivemind**

mercer wrote: now uses double Hammernators - they are a royal pain in the arse.

Hammernators? Sorry, but I don't follow?

**BaneGuard**

I think he means terminator's with thunder hammers and storm shields.

**mercer**

Yes, Assault Terminators with thunder hammers and storm shields. They can asborb a huge amount of punishment and very tough to get rid of.

**A-Hivemind**

He teleports them down via locator beacons I'm guessing? Or has he mashed them into LD's?

**mercer**

Teleports them down via the beacons.

**A-Hivemind**

Thanks for the input mercer. The blogs have been pretty helpful.
Though I showed my playing buddy both lists. He insisted on punching me if I took the 6 Dread podding army

**mercer**

Glad I helped mate and

and punch in the face. The multiple Dreadnoughts are cool, though if you have melta or decent guns you can take them out. Stunning, weapon destroyed and immobilised is enough to take care of them - that's half the damage table which is satisfactory and then you've got wrecked results too.

Let me know how you game mate

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**A-Hivemind**

It won't be for a long while before it gets up and running properly. It will be a 2+ year preoject, simply due to financial constraints. Also the dread list seems a little cheesy to me. Like you said it has it's flaws and weaknesses, but it's a great shock and awe army to smash down in 1st and 2nd turn.

**mercer**

Why is it cheesy? What do you mean cheesy?

**A-Hivemind**

Well though it is a hard hitting line up, it seems to me more like a Iron Hands list then a Sally list, with the MotF and 6 dreads. I feel though it doesn't really match up with the Sally fluff.

I probably shouldn't have used the word cheesy. Sorry about the confusion.

**mercer**

Well, Iron Hands don't have Vulkan

and a crap load of meltas. Sallies love MoTF, they love hammering metal into shape and all that. It's what they do!

.

Anyway, if you don't like the Dreadnoughts, then replace with two Hammernator units and add more Tactical Squads if you wihs.

**A-Hivemind**

I do like the dreads, just not that many

**balsak_da_mighty**

Well honestly you don't have to have alot of dreads in there if take the MoTF. Just taking him is fluffy as someone pointed out and it also helps you get the dread in there as a heavy choice, which frees up your 4th elite spot. It still makes it an elite army but makes it legal as well.

**A-Hivemind**

That's a valid point.
I might add MoTF in way later as an addition. Only restriction to this is money and time. With Uni (college) starting up soon again, getting time for hobbying is going to be hard.
Thank you for your input too.

**balsak_da_mighty**

No problem. I like fluff about armies it is what brought me into the game. Unfortunatly most don't care about fluff anymore, so I strive to helps those that do.

**A-Hivemind**

Well that's what brought me to Sallies. I wanted a painting army, that had some major theme behind it.

But the thing with the current Sallies armies is that a lot of them run Speeders. Though I can see how they would really work well with the twin-linking and everything but from the Armageddon rulebook the Sallies had 0-1 FA choices. Which makes sense, due to their unstable and high gravity on Nocturne but now I see them everywhere in lists. Want to put one maybe two in mine, but as a single squadron to represent their limitation on FA slots.

But we cannot have everything the way we want it. *shrug*

**balsak_da_mighty**

Yeah I know. Its just the way GW are making the codex nowadays. There really is a lack of flavor from army to army. They seem to be all the same. Its rather disturbing. LOL! Yeah I remember that codex, I used it for my Speed Freeks.

Looking at it now, you could have more then one FA just not more then one Speeder type/unit. You could bring bikes or Assault marines. But also only 0-1 on those too.

**A-Hivemind**

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
That actually makes sense, unlike my previous point. *facepalm*