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Hello,

A warhammer n00b here with a question about Nob Cyborks. I have pretty much the same question that was posed at an older thread here, but I don't think it was answered satisfactorily (at least for me). AIso, I don't want to be a thread necromancer (even though that sounds cool). I'm also seeking further clarification. I attempted to search here for my answer and the above thread was the closest I got. Google also did not avail me.

I also checked the most recent 40k FAQs, and they did not answer my question:

40k Rulebook FAQ (pdf)
Ork FAQ (pdf)

So here's the deal. I recently acquired this box of Ork Nobz:


On one sprue are bits for assembling a cybork. My questions are these (the first being the burning one):

1) What exactly are those two close combat weapons? They are pictured here (buzz-saw thing and the harpoon thing):



I can't believe, as suggested in the linked thread, that they are Power weapons (but I'd like to). My guess is that they are basically cyborky looking Choppas. According to the description for this box on the GW website, these weapons (along with two roboty heads) are parts to upgrade your Nobz with Cybork bodies. Not a lot of help there.

2) Is a cybork, apart from any differences in the above weaponry, basically a Nob, with a 5+ save (as per the Orks Codex, p91)? I could find no other references to Cyborks in the codex.

3) Why does it say in the aforelinked description that With this box set you can make... and then list Painboy (along with Nob), whereas I thought they would list Cybork? Is a Cybork not a stand-alone model with separate stats then? What have I got?!

In general, what does one do when a weapon/item is encountered on a sprue/model that is not listed on the box/literature, and is not in the Rulebook or corresponding Codex (I have other weapons I'm not going to get into here)? Is it basically a matter of closely examining the item and making an educated guess, or is there some secret website somewhere with pictures and descriptions of everything? Like I said, I'm new and I don't know my grotnik from a hole in the ground.

TIA!

They're just close combat weapons that can also represent the cybork upgrade. So yeah, they're cyborky looking choppas.

Cybroks body is just an upgrade for a nob that gives it a 5+ invulnerable save, that's it. They are still Nobs, with or without that upgrade. As for the painboy, you could convert your own using bits like I did way back when:

Brother SRM wrote:They're just close combat weapons that can also represent the cybork upgrade. So yeah, they're cyborky looking choppas.
Cybroks body is just an upgrade for a nob that gives it a 5+ invulnerable save, that's it. They are still Nobs, with or without that upgrade.

Okay, thanks for confirming, Brother SRM.

Btw, i dig that paint job on the Painboy's buzz saw, very nice.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
So I decided to put a Power Klaw on my Cybork Nob (along with his other CCW, the buzz-saw). I know he won't be able to get +1A, b/c it is a PK, and he loses an attack in the Shooting stage, but, damn it, I don't care - I think it looks cool! Is this a rookie mistake? I figured he'll usually be in a unit w/plenty of Boyz that will take care of the shooting...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/326761-.html?m=2