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Hello all,

I got a question regarding fear vs fencer blades.

Fencer blades makes you character ws10, now what happends if you fail your fear test.

1. you go to ws1 but fencer blades makes you ws10 again

2. Fencer blades makes you ws 10, fear applies after that making you ws 1.

3. something else???

Thanks for your help,

Mannfred

I would say 1.

I concur with Johnny. You start the game at WS10, you enter combat and fail your fear test therefore you are at WS1, next round you pass your fear test and are back at WS10.

2. You stsart the game as WS10, fear drops you to WS1

Nos gets it right again. You're WS 10 per blades but in the specific case of failing fear drop to WS 1.

Thanks a lot :-),

Why is this if you don't mind me asking?
Ans is there any page where i can show this??

I don't know if it works exactly like that. The character or unit can drop characteristics, but the weapon itself can remain unaffected. For example. if a str 3 unit with great weapons gets -3 str debuff, they would be str 3 in combat, not Str 2 (characteristic dropped to minimum 1, then weapon bonus kicks in).

The fencer's blades don't add to you'r WS they swap it, so does fear. Specific > general, all game > in case of failed test.

Maybe yes, then again maybe no.

Look in the rulebook FAQ.

Here is a quote from the FAQ:

"Most weapons, including magic weapons, state when the
bonus is given. For example, a model with the Fencer’s Blades
will always have Weapon Skill 10 ..."

The question is whether a failed fear test would override the statement that the model will always have WS10.
(by FAQAW {FAQ as written} it should still be WS10)

Maybe the FAQ needs a FAQ.

Except in the more specific case of a model with fencers blades that THEN fails a fear test

You would essentially have to destroy the Fencers Blades for the bearer to lose its WS bonus. Even after the bearer fails a fear test, he is still carrying a magic item saying he is WS 10.

scubasteve04 wrote:You would essentially have to destroy the Fencers Blades for the bearer to lose its WS bonus. Even after the bearer fails a fear test, he is still carrying a magic item saying he is WS 10.

That isnt how specific > general works.

Te more specific situaiton is a model with Fencers Blades failing a Fear test

How would you being afraid make your magic weapon less effective? I'm not sure what the ruling on this should be but unless your weapon leeches your cowardice off you I am not really sure why your WS would drop

So you're trying to bring some form of common sense into a game of IGOUGO with elves, orcs and the undead?

RAW your WS is dropped to 1 if you fail your fear test

nosferatu1001 wrote:So you're trying to bring some form of common sense into a game of IGOUGO with elves, orcs and the undead?

RAW your WS is dropped to 1 if you fail your fear test

YEs that's exactly what I'm trying to do!

Would it be completely incorrect to assume that this is one of those instances that GW would interpret using their "whoever's turn it is gets to decide which takes precedence?"

It's a crappy ruling on their part, but GW seems content with this interpretation whenever there is this type of rules conflict.

No need for that as specific>general.