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I have a small 40k event commeing up this weekend and i wanted to bring a take all comers SM army
I know Necrons will be there, and the other armysi might face are imperial guard, Chaos, Orks, (slight chance of) gray knights, Nids, Black templars.

So, basicly i need a good Take all comers list

this is what i have so far

Librarian Terminator
MoA , Null

Chaplin Terminator

6 Assault Terminators 3LC and 3 TH/SS (i have enough for any combo of LC and TH)

Land raider cursader /w MM and SB

10 man Tactical In rino
ML, flamer, Power w

10 man Tactical In rino
ML, flamer, Power w

10man Tactical In Drop Pod
ML, flamer, Power w

Anilator Preadtor (i have this magnatised so i can make any variant)
TLLC/LCS

10 Man Assult squad
Power w, combat sheild, flamer.

Nice list. I think, maybe you should remove the 10m assault squad. They are like 200 points each and either get shot up running across the board or shot up as they drop in from the sky. Invest in some power fists for you tactical squads, i prefer them to power weps.

More tanks, in the way of Predators. take two maybe, if you have them.

Other than that, it looks like it can hold its own against a few of the armys mentioned.

I'm just commenting, I don't really have any great ideas to "change" the list.

But uhh, isn't that lone drop pod squad going to get annihilated in a 1850? Same goes with the lone pred, anything not able to penetrate the LRC is going to be gunning for side armor on that baby.

Are you deep striking the jump packers with the drop pod?

I just don't know, it seems like you have more points in that one LRC and it's occupants than everything else put together. I know the idea of 8 termies sounds great mounted up. But that's just TOO many points all in one place in my opinion.

Taking that many terminators, and taking 2 HQs is going to put you at a disadvantage immediately just numbers wise. They may have too many tanks for you to handle, or they may have too many bodies to just eat you up/capture objectives.

If you're seriously looking for an all-comers list I don't recommend a list that can be gimped awful awful by one tank destroyed result.


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Hahaha, it's a radical change, but I say replace the LRC with more terminators, have the librarian lead them. Deep strike them all! (I'm partially just being silly)

Single drop-pod with a tac squad in will just die first turn.

Plan seems to be on getting that LR into the enemy lines ASAP and then opening up. In order to do this I think you need to change the list slightly so it all hangs together.

I agree that single Pred is an obvious target, so run at least 2 of them.
Rather than drop-pod I would run 3 rhinos, or might even consider 5 man squads and razorbacks
Chappy for the termies seems overkill. I would use the points on a pred
If the rest of the list is mech based, then the ASM don't seem to fit
Power swords on tacs not worth it, go fist/melta/nothing at all on the sergeant

ZOMBIE CAT wrote:Librarian Terminator MoA , Null
Chaplin Terminator -
6 Assault Terminators 3LC and 3 TH/SS (i have enough for any combo of LC and TH)

While the Chap makes the termies really killy, you don't want them *too* killy. 12 LCs all hitting & wounding on the charge will prolly clear an enemy unit, and with only 3 TH/SS termies, some concentrated AP2 fire will put the hurt on 'em. I'd take out the chap completely, for another TH/SS termie and points spent elsewhere.

If you're totally in love with the chap being in with "Litanies of Hate" (the word liturgies is not quite right, unless it means something different in the UK ), at least swap him for a power armored Chap who can Sweep Advance those necrons you'll be facing.

ZOMBIE CAT wrote:Land raider cursader /w MM and SB

Switch out the SB for EA points. You want the LRC to get where it's going, and deliver those termies, so EA is very important.

ZOMBIE CAT wrote:10 man Tactical In rino
ML, flamer, Power w
10 man Tactical In rino
ML, flamer, Power w

10man Tactical In Drop Pod
ML, flamer, Power w

Talk to the TO today and ask if it's okay to proxy the sgts as Pfisted and the flamers as meltaguns. Pfists help out a lot with h2h and assaulting vehicles. And you'll want MGs to deal with Necron Quantum Shielding and the rest of the Mech-heavy meta you'll encounter.

ZOMBIE CAT wrote:Anilator Preadtor (i have this magnatised so i can make any variant)
TLLC/LCS

Keep it.

ZOMBIE CAT wrote:10 Man Assult squad
Power w, combat sheild, flamer.

Flamer out. Got plasma pistols? Got the Pfist? Put 'em in if you can.

As far as the Drop Pod: Tac squads are not hardy enough to survive if you put it right in the enemy's grill. If you're going with a tactical, Deep Strike in a position to use a Turn or three to get into a good place. LoS-blocked would be ideal for the tactical.

Better: a dread with MM and a DCCW. Or 5 TH/SS termies.

Are Plasma Pistols really necessary if you have meltas in squads and at least 1 Las Pred sitting in backfield?

Also as much as I love Assault and Vanguard.. Most of the lists you are facing will rip them apart in CC.. Kinda making their existence irrelevant. I suggest dropping them for another tank, either another predator or a vindicator for pie plates on those horde armies.

Drop the Chaplain Terminator and get another TH/SS terminator. Like others have said, you don't want too killy a rock.

Dropped the power weapons (they are not going to get into close combat)
10 man Tactical In rhino - ML, meltagun
10 man Tactical In rhino - ML, meltagun

5-man Sternguard in Droppod - 5 combi-melta (if you want a suicidal unit, this is a better suicidal unit that will take something down with them too)

Drop the Annihilator Predator - Get 2 AC TLLC-sponson.

Drop 10-man assault squad (that's 200 points) => get 1 Thunderfire cannon (if you can) + snipers with camo cloak (awesome sitting in objective)
If you don't have those, get 2 Typhoon instead.

Your original list is REALLY lacking in long range AV13 popping. You are not going to catch up with those AV13 Necron skimmer.

I see the same problems as everyone else.

change drop pod to another rhino.
Assault marines for another 2 preds.

The chaplain would be better as that special character chaplain. Though I understand the complaints that you want it less killy. In any case i would want points spread out rather than all in a 250 pt raider.