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A Town Called Malus wrote: What about the food? Because anyone who argues that being fed has no effect on how well you learn has no idea what they are talking about. It's basic biology.
The brain needs energy. We get energy from food.
The link posted says after school food programs will be cut. They aren't cutting school lunches (those are meals during school) and may not be cutting school breakfasts (not sure if that counts as during school or before school) just meal programs after school is over. The kids will be getting at least one meal during school, possibly 2 if breakfast is offered, they just won't be getting another meal after school is already over.
A Town Called Malus wrote: What about the food? Because anyone who argues that being fed has no effect on how well you learn has no idea what they are talking about. It's basic biology.
The brain needs energy. We get energy from food.
The link posted says after school food programs will be cut. They aren't cutting school lunches (those are meals during school) and may not be cutting school breakfasts (not sure if that counts as during school or before school) just meal programs after school is over. The kids will be getting at least one meal during school, possibly 2 if breakfast is offered, they just won't be getting another meal after school is already over.
That is still bad. You don't stop learning just because you're no longer in the classroom.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
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"Based on the information available to us, we see no indications that Trump Tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the United States government either before or after Election Day 2016," .(Senate Intel Chair)Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C) said, providing no other details."
Meanwhile, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), also disavowed the claim on Wednesday, calling any literal interpretation of Trump's tweet "wrong."
Pathological liar-in-chief strikes again. I'd love to see Bannon's fear-addled little hamster brain working OT to sell this gak!
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A Town Called Malus wrote: What about the food? Because anyone who argues that being fed has no effect on how well you learn has no idea what they are talking about. It's basic biology.
The brain needs energy. We get energy from food.
The link posted says after school food programs will be cut. They aren't cutting school lunches (those are meals during school) and may not be cutting school breakfasts (not sure if that counts as during school or before school) just meal programs after school is over. The kids will be getting at least one meal during school, possibly 2 if breakfast is offered, they just won't be getting another meal after school is already over.
That is still bad. You don't stop learning just because you're no longer in the classroom.
How many kids are not going to be fed by their families at all during the day and only receive food from the school? We don't even know how many kids this change would affect. How many families can't manage to feed their kids one meal a day? There's a constant complaint that schools are asked to do too much and take on too many responsibilities for the students and complicate the primary objective of educating them but then we also have proponents that we need before school programs and breakfast in addition to the regular school day and school lunch then after school programs and an after school meal. At some point the families that choose to have kids have to take responsibility for them. How many schools offer after school meals? How many students actually partake in those meals? What evidence is there that the elimination of after school meals will leave children malnourished and enfeebled? How much responsibility can parents abdicate to the school system for the health and well being of their children?
Ahtman wrote: Securing Trump Tower in NY costs taxpayers more than the NEA but the NEA is actively under attack to try and defund it. What a time to be alive.
And how about that running tally of what Trump's weekenders to Mar-a-Lago is costing...after just 6 weeks? Can't you just taste the fiscal responsibility?
A Town Called Malus wrote: What about the food? Because anyone who argues that being fed has no effect on how well you learn has no idea what they are talking about. It's basic biology.
The brain needs energy. We get energy from food.
The link posted says after school food programs will be cut. They aren't cutting school lunches (those are meals during school) and may not be cutting school breakfasts (not sure if that counts as during school or before school) just meal programs after school is over. The kids will be getting at least one meal during school, possibly 2 if breakfast is offered, they just won't be getting another meal after school is already over.
That is still bad. You don't stop learning just because you're no longer in the classroom.
How many kids are not going to be fed by their families at all during the day and only receive food from the school? We don't even know how many kids this change would affect. How many families can't manage to feed their kids one meal a day? There's a constant complaint that schools are asked to do too much and take on too many responsibilities for the students and complicate the primary objective of educating them but then we also have proponents that we need before school programs and breakfast in addition to the regular school day and school lunch then after school programs and an after school meal. At some point the families that choose to have kids have to take responsibility for them. How many schools offer after school meals? How many students actually partake in those meals? What evidence is there that the elimination of after school meals will leave children malnourished and enfeebled? How much responsibility can parents abdicate to the school system for the health and well being of their children?
On the one hand, we can moralize and pontificate about gak parents "choosing" to have kids, then not take care of them. This solves nothing.
Or we can face the reality that there are hundreds of thousands of kids who, for whatever reason, only eat at school, and it is, relatively speaking, trivially easy for the wealthiest nation in the world to provide for them.
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“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
There are "no indications" that Trump Tower was under surveillance by the US government before or after the election, a Senate committee has said.
The statement from Republican Senator Richard Burr, Senate Intelligence Committee chairman, dismissed Donald Trump's claim his phones were tapped.
Mr Trump had accused his predecessor Barack Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower during the presidential race.
But White House spokesman Sean Spicer said Mr Trump maintains his claims.
"He stands by it," Mr Spicer said at a daily news briefing on Thursday.
The press secretary also refused to accept the Senate Intelligence Committee report, saying "they're not findings".
Mr Burr joins a cadre of Republican lawmakers who have rejected the allegation.
"Based on the information available to us, we see no indications that Trump Tower was the subject of surveillance by any element of the United States government either before or after Election Day 2016" Mr Burr said in a joint statement with Senator Mark Warner, the committee's vice-chairman.
Earlier on Thursday, House Speaker Paul Ryan also said "no such wiretap existed".
Republican chairman of the House intelligence committee Devin Nunes said on Wednesday he doesn't believe "there was an actual tap of Trump Tower".
But that has not deterred Mr Trump, who on Wednesday told Fox News a "wiretap covers a lot of different things".
He also hinted that more details about the alleged surveillance could be revealed in the coming weeks.
"Wiretap covers a lot of different things. I think you're going to find some very interesting items coming to the forefront over the next two weeks," he said in an interview broadcast on Wednesday night.
No evidence of wiretapping, according to:
former President Barack Obama
FBI Director James Comey
ex-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper
ex-CIA Director John Brennan
Republican chairman of House intelligence committee, Devin Nunes
Republican John McCain, who chairs Senate Committee on Armed Services
House Speaker Paul Ryan
Former White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough
Mr Trump echoed comments from White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer, who said the president used the word "wiretap" in quotes to broadly refer to "surveillance and other activities".
The White House has yet to provide any evidence of the president's claims, and instead has asked Congress to examine the allegation as part of a wider investigation into alleged Russian interference in last year's election.
Sean Spicer says British intelligence could have been involved in Barack Obama's 'wiretapping of Trump Tower'
GCHQ may have helped Barack Obama spy on Donald Trump, the White House press secretary suggested on Thursday.
Sean Spicer, communications director for Mr Trump, repeated a claim – initially made by an analyst on Fox News - that Britain's spy agency was used by Mr Obama to spy on Trump Tower, noting: "He’s able to get it and there’s no American fingerprints on it."
The president is under increasing pressure to justify his claims, which his opponents charge calls the whole integrity of his administration into question.
Mr Obama is said to have greeted the flurry of tweets on March 4 with “a deep eye roll”. His spokesman has denied the former president ordered any surveillance.
However, Mr Trump has stood by the accusation.
In an attempt to provide credibility to the claims, Mr Spicer quoted from a series of articles which discussed surveillance.
Most of the articles detailed how US intelligence agencies were looking into unusual communications between a computer server in Trump Tower and a Russian bank.
But one of the articles used to build Mr Spicer’s case was a transcript from Fox News on Tuesday morning, in which a political commentator and former New Jersey judge, Andrew Napolitano, alleged British involvement.
He claimed that rather than ordering US agencies to spy on Mr Trump, Mr Obama obtained transcripts of Mr Trump's conversations from Britain's GCHQ, which monitors overseas electronic communications.
Mr Spicer read out the report, quoting Mr Napolitano as saying: "Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the chain of command - he didn't use the NSA, he didn't use the CIA, he didn't use the FBI and he didn't use the department of justice - he used GCHQ."
GCHQ has a close relationship with its American equivalent, the NSA, as well as with the eavesdropping agencies of Australia, Canada and New Zealand in a consortium called "Five Eyes".
British officials were quick to rubbish Mr Napolitano's claims earlier this week. A government source reportedly said the claim was "totally untrue and quite frankly absurd".
The British official told Reuters that under British law, GCHQ "can only gather intelligence for national security purposes" and noted that the US election "clearly doesn't meet that criteria".
Mr Spicer’s press conference on Thursday was held shortly after the senate intelligence committee published a statement saying they had no evidence for Mr Trump's claim, made on March 4, that Mr Obama ordered wiretaps on Trump Tower.
And the combative press secretary set out to pour cold water on the committee's statement.
"They are not findings. The statement clearly says ‘at this time’ they don’t believe it," said Mr Spicer.
"At the end of the day the committee has not been provided all the information.”
He insisted that Mr Trump stood by his claims, as the president himself said the previous night.
Mr Spicer promised, once again, that Mr Trump would come up with proof that Mr Obama wiretapped Trump Tower.
“The bottom line is: the president said last night he will be providing additional information,” he concluded.
what the feth are you doing over there ?
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Ahtman wrote: Securing Trump Tower in NY costs taxpayers more than the NEA but the NEA is actively under attack to try and defund it. What a time to be alive.
And how about that running tally of what Trump's weekenders to Mar-a-Lago is costing...after just 6 weeks? Can't you just taste the fiscal responsibility?
Fiscal responsibility is only when you are one of those dirty lower classes.
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
So Trump's agenda is looking like this:
-Stonewall investigation into his Russian ties
-Try to investigate nonexistent surveillance
-Support a ridiculous budget that has his own party balking
-Maybe or maybe not support Republican AHCA
-Maybe build a wall
-Say lots of stupid and dishonest things
How could this possibly go wrong?
Anyone else think that if the GOP continues to fumble on their AHCA efforts it could cost them heavily in the midterms ala the Democrats in the 90s?
Ahtman wrote: Securing Trump Tower in NY costs taxpayers more than the NEA but the NEA is actively under attack to try and defund it. What a time to be alive.
Apparently supporting the arts is something that is primarily only done for city folks. If the NEA disappeared tomorrow most of the people who live in counties that voted for Trump wouldn't notice any difference at all, what an amazing coincidence.
May 10, 2016
Washington, DC—As the only funder in the country that supports the arts in all 50 states and five U.S. jurisdictions, the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) will award $82,357,050 in grants to fund 1,148 projects in the second major grant announcement of its 50th anniversary year. Grants will be awarded in 13 artistic disciplines or fields plus arts research, along with partnership agreements to U.S. states, jurisdictions, and regions.
A Town Called Malus wrote: What about the food? Because anyone who argues that being fed has no effect on how well you learn has no idea what they are talking about. It's basic biology.
The brain needs energy. We get energy from food.
The link posted says after school food programs will be cut. They aren't cutting school lunches (those are meals during school) and may not be cutting school breakfasts (not sure if that counts as during school or before school) just meal programs after school is over. The kids will be getting at least one meal during school, possibly 2 if breakfast is offered, they just won't be getting another meal after school is already over.
That is still bad. You don't stop learning just because you're no longer in the classroom.
How many kids are not going to be fed by their families at all during the day and only receive food from the school? We don't even know how many kids this change would affect. How many families can't manage to feed their kids one meal a day? There's a constant complaint that schools are asked to do too much and take on too many responsibilities for the students and complicate the primary objective of educating them but then we also have proponents that we need before school programs and breakfast in addition to the regular school day and school lunch then after school programs and an after school meal. At some point the families that choose to have kids have to take responsibility for them. How many schools offer after school meals? How many students actually partake in those meals? What evidence is there that the elimination of after school meals will leave children malnourished and enfeebled? How much responsibility can parents abdicate to the school system for the health and well being of their children?
On the one hand, we can moralize and pontificate about gak parents "choosing" to have kids, then not take care of them. This solves nothing.
Or we can face the reality that there are hundreds of thousands of kids who, for whatever reason, only eat at school, and it is, relatively speaking, trivially easy for the wealthiest nation in the world to provide for them.
What evidence do you have that supports your claim that hundreds of thousands of children in the US would go hungry if they weren't fed 3 meals a day at their school? Who feeds them on the weekends, spring break, holidays and summer vacation? The school year ends in June and doesn't begin again until September so all those kids would starve to death between grade levels.
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jmurph wrote: So Trump's agenda is looking like this:
-Stonewall investigation into his Russian ties
-Try to investigate nonexistent surveillance
-Support a ridiculous budget that has his own party balking
-Maybe or maybe not support Republican AHCA
-Maybe build a wall
-Say lots of stupid and dishonest things
How could this possibly go wrong?
Anyone else think that if the GOP continues to fumble on their AHCA efforts it could cost them heavily in the midterms ala the Democrats in the 90s?
I think it would be much better for the GOP for them to fumble away any chance of passing the AHCA then it would be for them to actually pass it. Dropping the AHCA and just passing a handful of changes/amendments to the ACA would be better for them in the midterms than swapping it out entirely for the AHCA.
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jmurph wrote: So Trump's agenda is looking like this:
-Stonewall investigation into his Russian ties
-Try to investigate nonexistent surveillance
-Support a ridiculous budget that has his own party balking
-Maybe or maybe not support Republican AHCA
-Maybe build a wall
-Say lots of stupid and dishonest things
How could this possibly go wrong?
Anyone else think that if the GOP continues to fumble on their AHCA efforts it could cost them heavily in the midterms ala the Democrats in the 90s?
I hope so.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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A Town Called Malus wrote: What about the food? Because anyone who argues that being fed has no effect on how well you learn has no idea what they are talking about. It's basic biology.
The brain needs energy. We get energy from food.
The link posted says after school food programs will be cut. They aren't cutting school lunches (those are meals during school) and may not be cutting school breakfasts (not sure if that counts as during school or before school) just meal programs after school is over. The kids will be getting at least one meal during school, possibly 2 if breakfast is offered, they just won't be getting another meal after school is already over.
That is still bad. You don't stop learning just because you're no longer in the classroom.
How many kids are not going to be fed by their families at all during the day and only receive food from the school? We don't even know how many kids this change would affect. How many families can't manage to feed their kids one meal a day? There's a constant complaint that schools are asked to do too much and take on too many responsibilities for the students and complicate the primary objective of educating them but then we also have proponents that we need before school programs and breakfast in addition to the regular school day and school lunch then after school programs and an after school meal. At some point the families that choose to have kids have to take responsibility for them. How many schools offer after school meals? How many students actually partake in those meals? What evidence is there that the elimination of after school meals will leave children malnourished and enfeebled? How much responsibility can parents abdicate to the school system for the health and well being of their children?
On the one hand, we can moralize and pontificate about gak parents "choosing" to have kids, then not take care of them. This solves nothing.
Or we can face the reality that there are hundreds of thousands of kids who, for whatever reason, only eat at school, and it is, relatively speaking, trivially easy for the wealthiest nation in the world to provide for them.
Nope. We have to make sure we punish children for choosing to be born to the wrong parents...
jmurph wrote: So Trump's agenda is looking like this:
-Stonewall investigation into his Russian ties
-Try to investigate nonexistent surveillance
-Support a ridiculous budget that has his own party balking
-Maybe or maybe not support Republican AHCA
-Maybe build a wall
-Say lots of stupid and dishonest things
How could this possibly go wrong?
Anyone else think that if the GOP continues to fumble on their AHCA efforts it could cost them heavily in the midterms ala the Democrats in the 90s?
I hope so.
I want the D's to take the senate purely to see how Trump reacts when losing. I'm expecting it to be very entertaining.
Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote: Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote: Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
BaronIveagh wrote: Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
feeder wrote: No, it's not a de facto Muslim ban. But it is bigot signalling to his deplorables. "I hear your irrational fear of Islam and I'm on your side". It's pandering to the stupid and easily led.
The judge sees this and is saying, "I don't think so. Homie don't play that", and beat-socking it down.
In the context of his foam at the mouth raging it can be seen as a defacto muslim ban
No, whembly has a point. Most of the Muslim world can still (try) to enter the US. What the EO is, is the Gakheel-in-Chief bigot signalling to his deplorables.
It's not a very good point because the ratio of non-muslims who aren't banned to muslims who are banned is 1,000:1.
You've gotta spin things pretty bloody hard not to see that as discriminatory against muslims.
After skimming through the order I do agree up to the point of how much value can be placed on previous statements by the administration responsible for the EO over the actual text of the document in question.
To me it feels like this is taking it too far; giving previous statements such high value compared to the text.
There seem to exist caselaw supporting the interpretation of the court though so without reading through those cases I'd not be prepared to say this order will be overturned.
Intent is incredibly important in constitutional law, with regards to discrimination and/or the establishment clause. It's why Kansas keeps getting their anti-evolution laws overturned, despite their content being completely secular and making no mention of religion.
The residents of Kansas are entitled to the protections in the US constitution the foreign nationals residing in the 6 countries subject to the EO do not. The strongest argument in the decision against the EO is that it prevents the Hawaii state university system from hiring foreign nationals from the named countries as faculty or admitting foreign nationals from those countries as students. No US citizens or legal residents are harmed by the EO.
The constitution exists to define and limit the powers of the government of the USA. These are not limited to their effect on the citizenry.
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Prestor Jon wrote: Apparently supporting the arts is something that is primarily only done for city folks. If the NEA disappeared tomorrow most of the people who live in counties that voted for Trump wouldn't notice any difference at all, what an amazing coincidence.
That, or 87% of NEA funding goes to people who live in metro areas is because.... 81% of the US lives in metro areas.
Which I am pretty sure you already knew, and tbh there are enough people that are willing to feign ignorance to score points. You're better then that.
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feeder wrote: No, it's not a de facto Muslim ban. But it is bigot signalling to his deplorables. "I hear your irrational fear of Islam and I'm on your side". It's pandering to the stupid and easily led.
The judge sees this and is saying, "I don't think so. Homie don't play that", and beat-socking it down.
In the context of his foam at the mouth raging it can be seen as a defacto muslim ban
No, whembly has a point. Most of the Muslim world can still (try) to enter the US. What the EO is, is the Gakheel-in-Chief bigot signalling to his deplorables.
It's not a very good point because the ratio of non-muslims who aren't banned to muslims who are banned is 1,000:1.
You've gotta spin things pretty bloody hard not to see that as discriminatory against muslims.
I agree that it is discriminatory against Muslims, that's the point of the EO.
What it is not (technically) is a "Muslim Ban", as there are Muslims from other parts of the world that may try to enter the US.
What it is, is a clear signal to the stupid, that he hears their fear of Islam and is trying to help them.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Ahtman wrote: Securing Trump Tower in NY costs taxpayers more than the NEA but the NEA is actively under attack to try and defund it. What a time to be alive.
Apparently supporting the arts is something that is primarily only done for city folks. If the NEA disappeared tomorrow most of the people who live in counties that voted for Trump wouldn't notice any difference at all, what an amazing coincidence.
May 10, 2016
Washington, DC—As the only funder in the country that supports the arts in all 50 states and five U.S. jurisdictions, the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) will award $82,357,050 in grants to fund 1,148 projects in the second major grant announcement of its 50th anniversary year. Grants will be awarded in 13 artistic disciplines or fields plus arts research, along with partnership agreements to U.S. states, jurisdictions, and regions.
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Prestor Jon wrote: Apparently supporting the arts is something that is primarily only done for city folks. If the NEA disappeared tomorrow most of the people who live in counties that voted for Trump wouldn't notice any difference at all, what an amazing coincidence.
That, or 87% of NEA funding goes to people who live in metro areas is because.... 81% of the US lives in metro areas.
Which I am pretty sure you already knew, and tbh there are enough people that are willing to feign ignorance to score points. You're better then that.
The 81% figure you cite uses a completely different definition of metropolitan area. 87% of NEA grants go to metropolitan areas and 90% of those metro areas have a population of 250k or greater as shown by the NEA chart I posted. 81% of the US population lives in urban areas by the US census definition of any town with at least 2.5k people in it. To restate my point in a factually correct manner, 87% of NEA grants go to metro areas and 90% of those areas have 250k or more people and only 82 cities in the US meet that criteria. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
So we have 74% of funding going to 82 cities which is why I pointed out that Trump, choosing to try to actually cut govt spending which has been a key Republican platform for decades but hasn't ever actually been done by a Republican administration, is focusing on programs that while insignificant to the overall budget are unlikely to be missed by his supporters. How did Trump do on election night in those 82 cities that 74% of NEA grants? Poorly so making the people there made at him doesn't change anything since they already were against him whereas actually cutting Federal programs even ones like the NEA will help him solidify support from his base that has recognized the fact that past presidents from the party that supposedly champions fiscal conservatism have all increased the size of the Federal govt and it's spending.
There are officially two types of urban areas: “urbanized areas” of 50,000 or more people and “urban clusters” of between 2,500 and 50,000 people. For the 2010 count, the Census Bureau has defined 486 urbanized areas, accounting for 71.2 percent of the U.S. population. The 3,087 urban clusters account for 9.5 percent of the U.S. population.
Though these smaller urban clusters account for a relatively small portion of the total population, they make up the vast majority of the roughly 3,500 "urban" areas in the U.S. But is a town of 2,500 people really what we think of as "urban"?
According to the Census Bureau, a place is "urban" if it's a big, modest or even very small collection of people living near each other. That includes Houston, with its 4.9 million people, and Bellevue, Iowa, with its 2,543.
Ahtman wrote: Securing Trump Tower in NY costs taxpayers more than the NEA but the NEA is actively under attack to try and defund it. What a time to be alive.
Apparently supporting the arts is something that is primarily only done for city folks. If the NEA disappeared tomorrow most of the people who live in counties that voted for Trump wouldn't notice any difference at all, what an amazing coincidence.
May 10, 2016
Washington, DC—As the only funder in the country that supports the arts in all 50 states and five U.S. jurisdictions, the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) will award $82,357,050 in grants to fund 1,148 projects in the second major grant announcement of its 50th anniversary year. Grants will be awarded in 13 artistic disciplines or fields plus arts research, along with partnership agreements to U.S. states, jurisdictions, and regions.
See this could be more money spent on war.
True. Wars are very expensive, last for decades and we have lots of them: The War on Poverty, The War on Drugs, The War on Terror, etc.
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Well, putting your wife up in a golden tower is very spendy so we're all going to need to do a little belt tightening.
Speaking of Trump tower, are we going to talk about the goalpost move from "Obama tapped my phones" to "Obama had the British tap my phones (!)"? Or did we decide that's such a ridiculous claim we're not even going to address it?
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Ouze wrote: Well, putting your wife up in a golden tower is very spendy so we're all going to need to do a little belt tightening.
Speaking of Trump tower, are we going to talk about the goalpost move from "Obama tapped my phones" to "Obama had the British tap my phones (!)"? Or did we decide that's such a ridiculous claim we're not even going to address it?
I think it is just too ridiculous. I mean, we all know that MI6 answers directly to the royal family and are basically their personal hit squad for getting rid of people who make them look bad or even just threaten their popularity.
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1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
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Some white-house spokesmen (so, this is more feth the Trump admin than the Republican party as a whole, but they do lead it now) is saiying that federal aid to get poor/starving kids that don't get fed at home food at school is getting cut because there is no evidence that the kids benefiting are doing better in school.
Essentially, it's them trying to BS cutting Head Start and Meals on Wheels.
Honestly don't know about Head Start...but Meals on Wheels is a participant with United Way, so they have to show their books. MoW literally gets <1% funding from the Feds... so, they'll be fine.
jmurph wrote: So Trump's agenda is looking like this: -Stonewall investigation into his Russian ties -Try to investigate nonexistent surveillance -Support a ridiculous budget that has his own party balking -Maybe or maybe not support Republican AHCA -Maybe build a wall -Say lots of stupid and dishonest things
How could this possibly go wrong?
Anyone else think that if the GOP continues to fumble on their AHCA efforts it could cost them heavily in the midterms ala the Democrats in the 90s?
I hope so.
I want the D's to take the senate purely to see how Trump reacts when losing. I'm expecting it to be very entertaining.
I'm with Frazz...
As for the Senate... not likely to happen, but hey... in a world where Trump winning the elections, anything is possible.
Getting rid of the NEA and seeing as a cut in government spending is like claiming one has emptied the ocean by dipping a tea cup in it.
Yup. Very true.
Leave the Defense and Entitlement alone... any other 'cuts' is meaningless.
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Ouze wrote: Well, putting your wife up in a golden tower is very spendy so we're all going to need to do a little belt tightening.
Speaking of Trump tower, are we going to talk about the goalpost move from "Obama tapped my phones" to "Obama had the British tap my phones (!)"? Or did we decide that's such a ridiculous claim we're not even going to address it?
We can.
It's total bs.
Gaslighting...
Stray voltage...
SQUIRREL!!
The dumb thing here... the fething media falls for it.
Ouze wrote: Well, putting your wife up in a golden tower is very spendy so we're all going to need to do a little belt tightening.
Speaking of Trump tower, are we going to talk about the goalpost move from "Obama tapped my phones" to "Obama had the British tap my phones (!)"? Or did we decide that's such a ridiculous claim we're not even going to address it?
I think it is just too ridiculous. I mean, we all know that MI6 answers directly to the royal family and are basically their personal hit squad for getting rid of people who make them look bad or even just threaten their popularity.
Well... I'm sure it happens, just not in this case imo.
Essentially, it's collaboration between the spy agencies that "you spy on the ones we're not allowed to, and we'll spy on the ones you're not allowed to" back scratching. However... the main reason why I don't think this is in play on Trump, is that prior to Nov 8th, no one believed Trump would win... so, why bother?
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whembly wrote: Essentially, it's collaboration between the spy agencies that "you spy on the ones we're not allowed to, and we'll spy on the ones you're not allowed to" back scratching. However... the main reason why I don't think this is in play on Trump, is that prior to Nov 8th, no one believed Trump would win... so, why bother?
Well, the Russians might have bothered if they were doing hacking in the US anyways. It's always good to know what Trump says in private if you want to influence his private news services with "news" that support his delusions.
Not that it all being a figment of imagination isn't the easiest solution. Everything is bigger with Trump - most votes, most electors, biggest crowd at inauguration. The best financial ideas, the best backroom deals - in his own mind it's surely unimaginable that someone somewhere wouldn't have some reason to wiretap him.
You know, IF Obama had this done and IF there was the possibility that they did find some stuff from Shadygrad and I were the Trump team I would be trying to prime my base to be more worried about the legality of the surveillance than what was actually found. I would also be trying to confuse my base so that no matter what comes out, they would be skeptical of it.
Either Trump does have an irrational fear/hatred of Obama and will be creating paranoid delusions for the next 4 years to our bewilderment or Bannon knows how to play people really well....or both.
A Town Called Malus wrote: What about the food? Because anyone who argues that being fed has no effect on how well you learn has no idea what they are talking about. It's basic biology.
The brain needs energy. We get energy from food.
The link posted says after school food programs will be cut. They aren't cutting school lunches (those are meals during school) and may not be cutting school breakfasts (not sure if that counts as during school or before school) just meal programs after school is over. The kids will be getting at least one meal during school, possibly 2 if breakfast is offered, they just won't be getting another meal after school is already over.
That is still bad. You don't stop learning just because you're no longer in the classroom.
How many kids are not going to be fed by their families at all during the day and only receive food from the school? We don't even know how many kids this change would affect. How many families can't manage to feed their kids one meal a day? There's a constant complaint that schools are asked to do too much and take on too many responsibilities for the students and complicate the primary objective of educating them but then we also have proponents that we need before school programs and breakfast in addition to the regular school day and school lunch then after school programs and an after school meal. At some point the families that choose to have kids have to take responsibility for them. How many schools offer after school meals? How many students actually partake in those meals? What evidence is there that the elimination of after school meals will leave children malnourished and enfeebled? How much responsibility can parents abdicate to the school system for the health and well being of their children?
The ones that most need it. I can't imagine it's that many, but they are likely to be the ones that can't afford real meals at home.
TLDR; Basically Tillerson stating that the carrot-stick diplomatic strategy generallly prusued for the last 20 years has failed and that South Korea and Japan may need a "first strike" capability.
I think it is a not so subtle message to China that they need to be more aggressive in curtailing North Korea's nuclear and missle programs or else face an arms race with S. Korea and Japan. China is already very unhappy about the deployment of THAAD to S. Korea.
Also, if you follow Tillerson's arguement to its seemingly obvious conclusion, what is being discussed is intermediate range nuclear missles being deployed to S. Korea and Japan with possibly both nations having some kind of "fire" control.
I'm struggling to see an alternative though as I agree that carrot and stick diplomacy has failed as Kim Jong-un is a full on meglomaniac and bat s*** crazy who has effectively doubled down on the brinksmanship and between him and Kim Jong-il, they have proven they cannot be trusted to uphold their diplomatic committments. With Kim Jong-il it seemed to be about using their weapons development to exhort money/aid from the West, but that doesn't seem to be Kim Jong-un's objective.
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