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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 18:58:48
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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Lord: Slann Mage, BSB, focus of mystery (loremaster), higher state of consciousness (ethereal) – 350
Heroes: skink priest, lv.2, cloak of feathers – 125
Total spent on characters – 475 (24%)
Core: 50 skinks, full command, 6 kroxigor – 600
15 skink skirmishers – 105
15 skink skirmishers – 105
total spent on core - 810 (41%)
Special: 16 temple guard, full command, champion has burning blade of Chotec – 311
4 terradon riders - 120
Rare: ancient stegadon – 275
Total: 1991
ok so what do you think? anything that desperately needs changing?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 19:34:04
Subject: Re:2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
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No doubt you want Focused Rumination. That should be #1 on your list.
The Skink Priest is just going to get shot flying around out there. If you want a Skink Priest (which I don't recommend) put him in with your core.
Core: I would recommend Saurus Warriors. But if you want to field Skinks use them to there maximum potential. Split them into multiple units. The thing Skinks+Krox got over Saurus is that they are better flankers. You wanna out unit them so you can get some flanks in.
You haven't spent any points on Special. I would replace those Skink Skirmishers with Chameleons, and split the Chameleons into three units. Then they can ninja your opponents, and have an extra BS.
EDIT: Oh yeah. And there is no point in giving the Slann higher state of consciousness if he is with Temple Guard. You gotta choose if you want a Solo Slann or a Temple Gaurd Slann.
2ND EDIT: I would also recommend a Salamander. WOOT ANCIENT STEGADON! Lol, your on my team now... We are team Mother F-ing Machine-gun Tricatops!!
And just for an example I use a Temple Gaurded Slann and here is mine:
Slann Mage-Priest 500pts
- 3 Disciplines (Focused Rumination, Becalming Cogitation, Focus of Mystery)
- Ironcurse Amulet //Temple Gaurd is where most of the artillery fire is going to go.
- Book of Asher //A lot of people don't agree. I think its worth it.
- Blood Statuette of Spite //Not to heavy on the wallet. Depends on the character but... has a good chance of killing a character... maybe even the enemy wizard.
- General
- Lore of Life
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/02/10 19:54:59
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The Restrictions I Put On My Tallarn Lists:
- Missile Launchers are the only HW teams allowed in Infantry Squads.
- All units able to take the FW Desert Raider special rule, must take it in lists of 750 points or more.
- 1 unit of 10 Rough Riders is required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- 2 units of Mukaali Rough Riders are required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- No vehicles besides Chimera Armoured Transports and Hydra Flak Tank Batteries are allowed.
- Al'Rahem is required in lists of 1000 points or more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 19:40:44
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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Drop the temple guard and add Chameleons and more skinks.
All skink core does fairly well IMO thought it has a more fluid WE style with the slann being your hammer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 19:57:56
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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Ok, how about this for Mk.2
Lord: Slann Mage, BSB, focus of mystery (loremaster), higher state of consciousness (ethereal) – 350
Heroes: skink priest, lv.2, channelling staff – 115
Core: 25 skinks, full command, 3 kroxigor – 312
25 skinks, full command, 3 kroxigor - 312
Special: 16 temple guard, full command, champion has
burning blade of Chotec – 311
4 terradon riders – 120
8 chameleon skinks, stalker – 102
8 chameleon skinks, stalker - 102
Rare: ancient stegadon – 275
Total: 1999
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 20:05:46
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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With the slann being ethereal you really do not need the temple guard as they do not have enough ranks to be a anvil.
Drop them for more core small skink skirmishing drops
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 20:46:01
Subject: Re:2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So I was in a GW recently and someone asked me if I would run a full Skink army and I said, "Hell No!" This is a personal choice as I feel Skinks lack the punching power and the rest of this build is just built to be cannoned to death. Then as I am answering the question, I get told my opinion is wrong. End line play whats fun to you but I would try the Skink/Krox units and see if that is your cup of tea.
I would rock 2x Saurus units 1x Temple guard and salamanders/chameleons as you see fit. Stegadons are too many points to die to the cannon heavy armies running around out there. Frog gets Life or Light. I also agree that if you put the frog in a unit if he can be cannonballed doesn't matter. Make him the best caster/anti caster you can (Loremaster, Strip 6's, Extra Die, whatever).
A trick I am loving is Scar Vets on Coldones super low armor without a shield and a great weapon, in each unit. They challenge well, smack characters better and hit hard enough to phase anything.
The book is really old and very much turning into a 1 trick pony, only skink answer is skinks and krox, rest gets mopped up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 23:09:33
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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meh, i'm not going for super competitive, most of the players in my area are sub-par. and the players that are actually very good don't really have very broken armies.
so i'm happy to play a weaker list if it is what i want. i was just wondering if anything in this list is pointless or is hurting my chances
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 23:21:12
Subject: Re:2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
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Dude... Give your Slann Focused Rumination, and Becalming Cogitation.
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Check out my Channel
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The Restrictions I Put On My Tallarn Lists:
- Missile Launchers are the only HW teams allowed in Infantry Squads.
- All units able to take the FW Desert Raider special rule, must take it in lists of 750 points or more.
- 1 unit of 10 Rough Riders is required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- 2 units of Mukaali Rough Riders are required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- No vehicles besides Chimera Armoured Transports and Hydra Flak Tank Batteries are allowed.
- Al'Rahem is required in lists of 1000 points or more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/10 23:32:56
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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instead of what? should i take off ethereal and give him the free dice? or do i take off both and give him the 'no more 6s' thing as well. because i'm not all that fussed either way
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/11 00:41:25
Subject: Re:2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
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Ethereal isn't very helpful when you have Temple Guard.
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Check out my Channel
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The Restrictions I Put On My Tallarn Lists:
- Missile Launchers are the only HW teams allowed in Infantry Squads.
- All units able to take the FW Desert Raider special rule, must take it in lists of 750 points or more.
- 1 unit of 10 Rough Riders is required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- 2 units of Mukaali Rough Riders are required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- No vehicles besides Chimera Armoured Transports and Hydra Flak Tank Batteries are allowed.
- Al'Rahem is required in lists of 1000 points or more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/11 00:45:56
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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hmm, fair point. so should i swap out both ethereal and loremaster, or just ethereal?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/11 00:46:14
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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But it is cheaper to drop the TG and just take Ethereal
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/10 00:07:31
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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maybe, but i don't like the idea of having the slann just open to attacks, even if they would only be magical. i also bought them temple guard already, so it would be a shame to put them to waste, considering how much i spent on resin bases for them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/12 01:24:26
Subject: Re:2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
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I would keep TG. Give the Slann Focus of Mystery, Becalming Cogitation, and Focused Rumination.
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Check out my Channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheWarhammerFatKids
The Restrictions I Put On My Tallarn Lists:
- Missile Launchers are the only HW teams allowed in Infantry Squads.
- All units able to take the FW Desert Raider special rule, must take it in lists of 750 points or more.
- 1 unit of 10 Rough Riders is required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- 2 units of Mukaali Rough Riders are required for lists of 1000 points or more.
- No vehicles besides Chimera Armoured Transports and Hydra Flak Tank Batteries are allowed.
- Al'Rahem is required in lists of 1000 points or more. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/01 21:19:13
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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ok guys, how does this look?
Lord: Slann Mage, BSB, focus of mystery (loremaster), becalming cogitation (enemy wizard within 24”, all 6s discarded), Focused ruination (free dice per spell) – 400
Heroes: skink priest, lv.2 – 100
Core:
25 skinks, 3 kroxigor – 292
25 skinks, 3 kroxigor - 292
Special:
16 temple guard, full command, champion has burning blade of Chotec – 311
4 terradon riders – 120
8 chameleon skinks, stalker – 102
8 chameleon skinks, stalker - 102
Rare: ancient stegadon – 275
Total: 1994
sorry for the necro
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 15:38:56
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Charging Wild Rider
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What Lore are you taking on the Frog? Light is pretty the best lore available to Lizards, especially if you're after a combat list.
The second level on the Skink Priest doesn't really add very much. A Dispel Scroll would be good on him.
Adding in the usual pair of mounted Scar-Vets would help a lot. You could consider dropping the Stegadon for them, as they do pretty much the same thing better for less points and are harder to kill.
Temple Guard are pretty bad, you'll improve the list massively by dropping them for skinks.
I'd swap one unit of Skrox for a Saurus unit.
Champions in the chameleons aren't really worthwhile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 16:51:30
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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I would run cube on a lvl 1 skink priest personally. Also I think Heavens would fit nicely for the Slann
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 17:57:30
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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I'm a fan of Life on the lizards. I usually run the Slaan with Loremaster, +1 dice on casting, and one wizard ignores 6's. I throw him in a unit of about 20 temple guard and thats my anvil. Everytime I cast a spell, I get one of the guard back. I get Throne so I shouldn't miscast, I beef up one unit's toughness to where the enemy can't hurt me and I can strike back at full effect. If they have killing blow, then I give them regen. When I see a tar pit unit coming at me, I use Dwellers to thin them out rather quickly.
You'd be surprised at how many people don't like T8 Lizardmen or T6 Skink.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 19:53:55
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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yeah, i was going to go with life on the slann, the buffs are what i wanted, and dwellers is pretty fun. i can't drop the steg in place of a pair of scar vets because i'm maxed out on character points as it is. i'm also trying to keep this list as skink heavy as possible, with the temple guard as the only saurus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 19:55:28
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Fanatic with Madcap Mushrooms
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You do know Lord and Hero allotments are different right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 20:03:17
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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boyd is dead on the money. life lore all the way in a big bunker of temple gaurd. i dont play lizards but my main gaming partner does and every time he takes life he just feths me over... i play ogres and man. i can beat everything in his army down but the slaan loremaster life with gaurd combo just eats me up... he used to put chaqaxe in there aswell... he was abit of a monster... but thats personal preference
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 20:20:15
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Charging Wild Rider
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boyd wrote:. Everytime I cast a spell, I get one of the guard back..
Not entirely right, you get a wound back on a multi-wound model.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 20:27:22
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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so on his teme gaurd... hed get a model back...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 21:19:17
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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i think that the allotments were faq'd to be 25% of points on characters, though i could be mistaken
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 21:43:20
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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25% on heros and a further 25% on lords.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 22:06:46
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Charging Wild Rider
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Lordjig6 wrote:so on his teme gaurd... hed get a model back...
Well, no, because they're not a multi-wound model- they're a unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/02 22:55:23
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
The Royal Tunbridge Wells
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it's true, but if i took Chakax...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/04 11:04:45
Subject: 2000pts Lizardmen Slann/Skink list
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Right my turn.
Lord & hero
Drop skink to level 1. Give him either a dispell scroll or cube darkness. You will need the magic defence.
Slann give him standard of discipline. To get points for this I'd drop a terradon.
Core
Your points in the last list are wrong. Plus at the bare basics you will need a standard and musician. Champ is optional.
Special
Temple guard are fine. Maybe a flaming banner rather than the burning blade. But again optional.
Camo-skinks units of 6 work much easier and still do the damage. I'd also drop the stalkers not needed. Terradons as I mentioned earlier drop one for slanns standard. 3 will do as good a job as 4. Plus as unit smaller enemy won't think of them as a threat.
Rare
Steg is fine. Just expect him to die. A cannon ball at him is not a cannon ball at your slann.
You really should take a salamander they are a beaut. Personally I'd drop one unit of camo-skinks for one.
Lores of magic.
Light will give you good buffs and good offence.
Life is all about points denial but you'll probably focus it at temple guard. Dwellers can hurt people a lot.
Shadow my fav at the moment. 2 remains in play spells for opponent to deal with plus mind razor str6 skinks will get the hardest units worried. Combo withering-salamander.
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