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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 02:23:00
Subject: Second Army Worth it?
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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Hi all, I have decided to begin a second 40k army and I think its time to go Evil for a change.
I like the idea of a Nurgle list and don't want to waste my dollar so for my 1500 buylist all c&c welcome (if not encouraged)
HQ: Demon Prince + Mark of Nurgle + Warp Time + Wings =175
ELT: Chaos Dredd + T/L Autocannon + Extra Armour =125
TRP: Plague Marines x 7 + Champ + Powerfist + 2x Meltagun + Rhino = 271
TRP: Plague Marines x 7 + Champ + Powerfist + 2x Meltagun + Rhino =271
TRP: Plague Marines x 7 + Champ + Powerfist + 2x Plasmagun + Rhino =241
TRP: Plague Marines x 7 + Champ + 2x Plasmagun + Rhino =266
HVY: Obliterators x2 = 150
Total =1499
I this a decent list or a waste of time/money?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 05:59:44
Subject: Second Army Worth it?
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Raging Rat Ogre
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Looks good.
The only thing I'd change is swap the dreadnought for more oblits, and drop warp time off the prince, as the FAQ killed it.
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Cause the chicks dig it...
2000 (RT era Thousand Sons), 2000 (Undivided), 3000 (demons)
2500 (Skaven), 3000! (Chaos Dwarf), 2500 (Warriors of Chaos)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 08:29:38
Subject: Second Army Worth it?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, three PM squads should suffice at this pt level. I'd integrate another DP and an Obliterator.
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Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 08:47:31
Subject: Re:Second Army Worth it?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I used to think squads of 7 Plagues was the way it had to be. But seriously, they just aren't cost effective. They only seem to be able to kill anything in combat every now and then, and if your careful the extra two guys barley give you an advantage over a 5 man squad with 2 special weapons. 5 Plagues, with 2 meltas in a rhino is 170 points thats saving you quite a few points (although I think your points tally is off, I just worked out your two melta squads at 256, the Plasma with fist 266 and the Plasma without fist 241, and if your not taking fist, you definatly don't need a Champ.)
If you really want a 'decent' chaos list, quickly, I think you will need to follow the more standard conventions.
Warptime Princes are now less effective, might as well not bother with Warptime FAQ ruined it. I know Lash is Slaanesh, but probably only way to effectively take DPs now.
Dreads, only 2x CCW, for a start one TL AC and extra armour, is expensive for a dread that might shoot your rhinos in the back, or charge fowards out of positon.
More Oblits, I personally don't like them, they always fail, but they are probably the best HQ. But advantage of Nurgle is modelling, and I think tanks are more fun than oblits to model, so maybe a mix of AC/LC predators and Vinidcators would be tempting for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 10:12:07
Subject: Re:Second Army Worth it?
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Raging Rat Ogre
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More Oblits, I personally don't like them, they always fail, but they are probably the best HQ
Oblits are Heavy...
But yeah, preds would work too, or even havocs w/ ML/ AC.
Are you trying to build a tourney level list, or something just to have good times with?
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Cause the chicks dig it...
2000 (RT era Thousand Sons), 2000 (Undivided), 3000 (demons)
2500 (Skaven), 3000! (Chaos Dwarf), 2500 (Warriors of Chaos)
(RT era World Eaters WIP) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 14:56:43
Subject: Re:Second Army Worth it?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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cricketofdeth wrote:More Oblits, I personally don't like them, they always fail, but they are probably the best HQ
Oblits are Heavy...
But yeah, preds would work too, or even havocs w/ ML/ AC.
Are you trying to build a tourney level list, or something just to have good times with?
Yeah obviously, sorry for the typo...
Havocs are way too expensive, 20 point heavy weapons? Your paying more for 4 weapons than you are for 5 guys... I would only take Havocs with assaut weapons, but only if you already have 3 chosen squads...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 22:56:55
Subject: Re:Second Army Worth it?
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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Ok firstly thank for all the feedback
Sorry bout the points errors I don't own the codex the list was written from memory of skimming my friends codex last friday
My group has no tourneys yet so I am not worried about cutting cookies just a decent nurgle list
we also don't use any FAQ rules yet as of the 5 of us two are new and two are returning from 3rd
but in light of all the DP problems is Fabius bile worth it? I know he boosts squads but I don't know if its CSM or PM
in any case is it worth having basic marines, maybe 3 squads of PM and 1 CSM?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 23:07:10
Subject: Second Army Worth it?
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Dakka Veteran
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I think the advantage with a 2nd army is that you can let others try the game without them buying a whole army for themselves and actually try a game up to scale.
and that you can test your armies up against eachother if you feel like playing against yourself
and i dont have a clue about CSM so i just answered the question in the topic ^^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 23:29:08
Subject: Second Army Worth it?
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Hellacious Havoc
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Warptime is worth taking, never know when you might get a crappy roll.
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~ New to 40k ~
1,000 Word Bearers
Anxiously awaiting the new Chaos Codex |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/13 23:39:57
Subject: Re:Second Army Worth it?
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Been Around the Block
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Lose the dreadnaught and demon price for a nurgle libraian on bike and bikers with mark of nurgle.
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