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Im thinking of getting one and adding pask, LC and PC sponsons. It can take anything except AV 14 but with a S 10 LC and 6 S 8 shots it can still hurt it if theres nothing else to shoot at.

Does anyone use the exterminator this way? how successful is it on average?

That's not my favorite loadout for exterminators. That makes them really friggin expensive, and the plasma cannons are awful.

Pask, perhaps, but only if you really don't have anything better to spend the points on, but for the rest my preferred configuration is with a hull lascannon and a pair of sponson bolters.

Every gun in this loadout is optimized for taking out AV10 (which is the exterminator's prime target), and while the bolters aren't doing much to AV11, the lascannon and autocannon still will. With the lascannon and all the autocannoniness, it's still even decent against AV12, sometimes. I've actually on occasion included an HK missile if I knew lots of AV12 was in my future.

Meanwhile, this loadout is still murder against hordes. The lascannon may not be a heavy bolter, but it's still 6 heavy bolter shots and 4 twin-linked autocannon shots. I've taken down terminator squads with these guys just through sheer weight of fire before (wounding on 2's and 3's means lots of armor saves).

In brief, the LC/HB combo is cheap, and it's pretty good against everything but real heavy vehicles and really obnoxious infantry types (like those with FNP). Against most else, it's able to engage it with at least some degree of effectiveness.

I personally have never used an Exterminator (twin linked Autocannons Russ). the twin linked part is nice but I think a Hydra or even a squad of Heavy weapons teams(with auto cannons) can unload just as much firepower and are cheaper. Sure the Russ gets the sponsons but the main weapon is still a let down for a proper Tank.

For hordes, the normal battle cannon works well, (perhaps even the Punisher), the Executioner kills heavy troops and light armor easily. Demolisher for when you really want to make something die. the others have their own situations. but the Exterminator i don't really see as effective when others can take its place.

Engine of War wrote: a Hydra or even a squad of Heavy weapons teams(with auto cannons) can unload just as much firepower and are cheaper.

Actually, for their points, hydras put down twice as much firepower as exterminators. The problem is that they come on AV12 chassis. If you're willing to take half the firepower for AV14, then the exterminators are still better (if you're not, of course, then they aren't).

Engine of War wrote: For hordes, the normal battle cannon works well

Regular russes are terrible against hordes. Once your opponent spreads out, you're not hitting much more than 3 models per shot - the same number of hits that the exterminator cannon gets on average.

Engine of War wrote:(perhaps even the Punisher),

Not really. The punisher may technically handle hordes better, but it's WAY more expensive for the privelage.

Engine of War wrote:the Executioner kills heavy troops and light armor easily.

The executioner puts out one fewer shot, and not twin-linked at exactly the same strength for a way huger price tag. It's certainly better against termies, but once again, they have to deal with opponents spreading out (2" cohesion rules can really kill off a 1.5" radius template's killing power in a hurry).

Engine of War wrote: the Exterminator i don't really see as effective when others can take its place.

Other tanks can be made to do what the exterminator does, true, but only the exterminator does it for as cheaply as the exterminator. For the price of an exterminator, you've got the points left over to take some plasma or meltaguns, the effectiveness of which you need to add to the exterminator to make a reasonable comparison to any other heavy tank on a by-points basis.

Put another way, exterminators don't present the most up-front, single-unit damage of other russes, but it's the most efficient at what it does while still handling a reasonable threat range, which makes it more list-friendly than other options.

Showerbuddy wrote:6 S 8 shots it can still hurt it if theres nothing else to shoot at.

I forgot to note on this earlier. The autocannon only gets 4 shots, and it only counts as S8 with pask when you're shooting at vehicles, not all the time.

4 S 8 shots from the autocannon and 2 S 8 from the plasma cannons. so 6 all up.

Oh, sorry.

It's still a lot of points to pay for a couple more S8 shots.

I suppose, more importantly, the price of a LC/PC pasksterminator is a whopping 255 points. For that price you're coming dangerously close to being able to afford an entire second exterminator and just straight-up doubling your killing power.

You could take two Hydras for the same price, and they do the exact same thing, plus are good against skimmers and non marine bikes. They also have two main weapons, so they are harder to weapon destroy. It also gives you two units instead of one.

The Leman Russ Exterminator is really just a point sink; too much for what it does, and not that much any more.

Ailaros, I'm surprised to see you endorsing the Exterminator on any level. Out of curiosity, what turned you back on to both, Russes AND ACs?

I dislike the Exterminator. I would take the two hydras or the infantry platoon with autocannons before I took the Russ for the reasons already stated. I'd actually take the Eradacator over it.

I have two exterminators that I run often enough in a squadron. Both are outfitted the same, Lascannon/heavy bolter sponsons. I like the twin link auto cannon main gun. I know, you will hear alot of people say the hydra is half the cost, but, it is less armor and doesn't have the mobility. That said, the Exterminator and the Hydra both have there advantages and downfalls.

As far as Pask, there are worse tanks to put him on, but, he only belongs on a punisher.

I think pask belongs in an exterminator to give him 4 twin linked krak missiles! plus the fact that ull nearly always get 4 hits, plus the punch against monsterous creatures as well.

so does anyone use the pask, PC and LC loadout on an exterminator? is it worth 255 points?