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alright, here is the deal: I have terminators in my army and I usually deepstrike them, and to aid this I gave my tactical squad a teleport homer. My understanding is this: place anything within six inches of the sergeant and no scatter. They cant be touching enemy units, terrain or friendly models. Recently I played a game against two guys who took issue with my placement of it. One guy told me that I cant measure beforehand and place my terminators where i measured six inches. I personally played several games where I measured before hand and the people I played against (who they themselves played for years) never once mentioned this rule when I measured before hand.


Another thing that happened is that I placed a terminator within two-three inches of the model and the other guy i was playing against said they all died because of a 'mishap' Is it just me, or does that greatly kill the idea of the homer. is it just a waist of 15 points?

one more thing that happened in that game was my ally had a drop pod... well, drop onto an area near some rocks. The very tip of the drop pod wing just barely touched the rock and they started screeching about it having to be delayed because of a terrain mishap.

Now these guys where being D-bags because me and my ally where killing them to death, and one resorted to cussing me and my ally's out, so IDK.

thanks in advance

You have no permission to premeasure, so you can't. Place the marker then measure.

If you place too close and can't deploy all your terminators (2 inches is too close) it forces a mishap, homer or not.

The drop pod wing doesn't matter for determining mishap

Also there is no such thing as "terrain" mishap - there is IMPASSABLE terrain causing mishap, which normal difficult or dangerous terrain isnt

Sounds douchey, but at least partially correct.

You have no permission to premeasure with the teleport homer, so you have to judge the distance to that first placed model by eye. It's not hard; I usually get mine about 5.5"-5.75" away.

AFTER placing all the models, if any of them are within 1" of an enemy model, or are on top of your own models or Impassible terrain, you have a mishap.

A drop pod can't land on top of models or impassible terrain. If you foolishly place it within 1" of the enemy and it doesn't scatter, it mishaps. If it scatters off the table, it mishaps. If you place it so it's not in Impassible terrain, and it's outside of 1" of enemy models, its inertial guidance rule will stop it 1" away if it would normally scatter into them.

Mannahnin wrote:Sounds douchey, but at least partially correct.

You have no permission to premeasure with the teleport homer, so you have to judge the distance to that first placed model by eye. It's not hard; I usually get mine about 5.5"-5.75" away.

AFTER placing all the models, if any of them are within 1" of an enemy model, or are on top of your own models or Impassible terrain, you have a mishap.

A drop pod can't land on top of models or impassible terrain. If you foolishly place it within 1" of the enemy and it doesn't scatter, it mishaps. If it scatters off the table, it mishaps. If you place it so it's not in Impassible terrain, and it's outside of 1" of enemy models, its inertial guidance rule will stop it 1" away if it would normally scatter into them.

I mistyped that statement about the drop pod. It scattered near the rocks, he didnt put it on it.

And what about 1"-2" away from my own model, not anywhere near the enemy's, but not directly on top of any the model. so do I still mishap?

Tiger9gamer wrote:And what about 1"-2" away from my own model, not anywhere near the enemy's, but not directly on top of any the model. so do I still mishap?

As long as you can legally place all of the terminators in your unit, you can be as close as you want to friendly units without a mishap.

DeathReaper wrote:

Tiger9gamer wrote:And what about 1"-2" away from my own model, not anywhere near the enemy's, but not directly on top of any the model. so do I still mishap?

As long as you can legally place all of the terminators in your unit, you can be as close as you want to friendly units without a mishap.

oh okay thanks ^^ I don't fully understand the drop pod thingie so help would be nice

Drop pods reduce their scatter so that they don't land on top of other units or impassible terrain.

Units can Deep Strike into any non-impassible terrain without Mishap. They just have to take a Dangerous Terrain test if they do. With a Drop Pod, since it starts off Immobile, the Immobilization you would normally suffer for rolling a 1 becomes a Weapon Destroyed.

Mannahnin wrote:Drop pods reduce their scatter so that they don't land on top of other units or impassible terrain.

Units can Deep Strike into any non-impassible terrain without Mishap. They just have to take a Dangerous Terrain test if they do. With a Drop Pod, since it starts off Immobile, the Immobilization you would normally suffer for rolling a 1 becomes a Weapon Destroyed.

Ohhhh okay. thanks ^^