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Space wolves list tell me what you think 1000pts

Bjorn the fell handed-lascannon
With
10x blood claws-flamer
5x greyhunters-plasma pistol,power fist
In razorback-dozerblade
5x greyhunters-plasma gun, pistol, powerfist
In razorback-dozerblade
4xlongfangs- plasma cannon,lascannon and multimelta
4xlongfangs-plasma cannon, lAscannon and multi melta





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I know bjorn can't join a unit it is just where he would be on the board

Love the plasma cannon - it'll get its points back at this points level.

I think you're reasonably well set up for DoW and Spear Head. Think about how you will deploy in pitched battle - I'd try and spread your forces out to give you more time to shoot v assauly armies.

Be careful of deploying so that your razors end up unsupported by your long fangs in turn three on wards as they advance. How will you use the blood claws?

You have an expensive and a weird blend of long fangs, maybe they'll do all right.

meltas are more than plasma guns. Plasma pistols are not worth the points, powerfists in grey hunter are not worth the points either.

Given you already have 10 scoring men I am sure you can find something better to spend points on than blood claws.

Looks a total mess to be honest.

Bjorn is overcosted for this point level.

Bloodclaws are good but need to be part of a bigger assault force. Yours isn't really.

The grey hunters are a mess. They need melt and either a bigger squad with wolf standard for cc in a rhino. Or they need a razorback with a gun upgrade.

Longfangs need to have all missilelaunchers.

I'm not going to say Long Fangs need missile launchers (mostly because I run lascannons), but you really should drop the multi-melta. Its short range is a major handicap and basically makes it a waste of points in a long range shooting squad (which is what long fangs are).
On the other hand, Bjorn the Fell-handed is way overpriced for really any points level. If you really want to run a dreadnought (personally, I'm not a fan), run a standard elites dreadnought along with a cheap HQ choice. At 1000 points, Rune Priest w/ JotWW is insane.

I would put 3 long fangs, i wouldnt have so many different weapons in them. Any heavy weapons group should try and be the same type of weapon. The reason is so they can have the same target objectives.

I will have missile launcher instead of multi melta in long fang squads

I will take plasma cannon for bjorn

Drop plasma pistol take grey hunters instead of blood claws

Maybe get a drop pod for bjorn or put standards in hunter squadrons

Arcturus I want you to do 1 thing if you do anything with this list, think incredibly carefully about what each unit is supposed to be doing and how it will do it, what it costs and what is ACTUALLY going to recoup on the board.

1000pts is a hard game to build a list for because you have to be on the ball otherwise you;ll have underpowered a unit and taken a chunk of the points and rendered them useless or put in a deathstar and left the rest of the army too weak.

Now on the list itself, bjorn is for the guy that doesn't want to have hq selections and just wants more dreads in his army. He works but you need to have like 3 dreads in the list to make bjorn anything but the biggest points and heavy fire sink on the board.

The reason missile launcher long fangs are so popular isn't just conventional wisdom, sanguinis runs lazcannons and they work fine but missiles offer you something other then taking on armour which is blast templates for killing troops. In 1000pts there won't be much armour and what there will be will most likely be rhinos and other weak armoured tanks, maybe a pread or vindicator but I'd doubt that.
Missiles offer you the ability to eat those tanks and to bust the crap out of hordes/instant kill space marine characters who don't have terminator/runic armour.
Mixes of weapons rarely works the way you want it and range is always something to have on support units.

Blood claws are fine in bigger games, you can have lots of them to screen expensive units or you can mount 15 with a wolf priest in a crusader and drop that death wagon on the enemy and tear lumps out of them. At 1000pts you have taken a 10 man squad of not so great marines over a squad of the best troops in the game bar none. A GH can move shoot and fight, has great wargear options, MOTW and wolf banner, and they can be buffed by a wolf guard squad leader.
GH will hit just as hard as BC because they have better skills and can shoot bolters instead of pistols.

What I would suggest is a rune priest with a chooser and wolftail talisman as a hq, 3 7 man GH squads mounted in a rhino with a melta gun and MOTW, 2 6 man squads of long fangs with 5 missile launchers and 3 WG with power fist and combi-melta.

That list is rather generic but it has more heavy weapons then your original list, 11 including the rune priests powers, has more men and can choose to hold the field and shoot or charge and shoot depending on the situation.

Thanks I will try this sort of list might trim long fang squadrons to fit in standards I love them!