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So we will ever see the return of a loyal Primarch? I was thinking since the rumours of the Imperium becoming more weaker it would be perfect to bring back one of the lads, maybe GW could do some kind of vote to see who is the fan favorite.
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the Emperor might be the greatest psyker that ever lived, but he doesn't have the specialized training that a Grey Knight has. Also he doesn't have a Grey Knight's unshakable faith in the Emperor.
The Emperor doesn't have a GKs unshakable faith in the Emperor which is....basically himself?
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Russ Mandarin wrote:It will happen when they move the plot forward
So... Never.
It is one of those mechanics that they have but won't utilize. Like the 30th Millennium, it would be too difficult to represent the Emperor and/or his Primarchs on the table top.
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UNREALPwnage wrote:I want to see Sigismund in the next BT book, he isnt dead in any fluff and is the most faitful of all the space marines.
While it would be interesting to see the first Emperor's Champion represented, we know he is dead. We don't know how, but what we do know, is that Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels, is the oldest living loyal space marine. He's only what? 4,000, or was it 6,000 years old? I honestly don't remember, but even at 6,000, he's still younger than Sigismund, who was already several hundred years old when the battle for Terra took place, putting him well over 10,000 years old.
Though, it wouldn't be the first character to be put into a book who was already dead. But I still doubt it.
Back on topic, I would have to agree with what others have posted. It won't happen unless GW moves the story forward, which probably won't happen unless something really shakes the company up.
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UNREALPwnage wrote:I want to see Sigismund in the next BT book, he isnt dead in any fluff and is the most faitful of all the space marines.
While it would be interesting to see the first Emperor's Champion represented, we know he is dead. We don't know how, but what we do know, is that Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels, is the oldest living loyal space marine. He's only what? 4,000, or was it 6,000 years old? I honestly don't remember, but even at 6,000, he's still younger than Sigismund, who was already several hundred years old when the battle for Terra took place, putting him well over 10,000 years old.
Though, it wouldn't be the first character to be put into a book who was already dead. But I still doubt it.
Back on topic, I would have to agree with what others have posted. It won't happen unless GW moves the story forward, which probably won't happen unless something really shakes the company up.
nope, the big book confirms that bjorn is the oldest living sm non primarch, loyal or not.
if a primarch does return, better hope it isnt russ, cos we all know that that means...
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UNREALPwnage wrote:I want to see Sigismund in the next BT book, he isnt dead in any fluff and is the most faitful of all the space marines.
While it would be interesting to see the first Emperor's Champion represented, we know he is dead. We don't know how, but what we do know, is that Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels, is the oldest living loyal space marine. He's only what? 4,000, or was it 6,000 years old? I honestly don't remember, but even at 6,000, he's still younger than Sigismund, who was already several hundred years old when the battle for Terra took place, putting him well over 10,000 years old.
Though, it wouldn't be the first character to be put into a book who was already dead. But I still doubt it.
Back on topic, I would have to agree with what others have posted. It won't happen unless GW moves the story forward, which probably won't happen unless something really shakes the company up.
nope, the big book confirms that bjorn is the oldest living sm non primarch, loyal or not.
if a primarch does return, better hope it isnt russ, cos we all know that that means...
Haha. Fair enough, if we were counting dreadnoughts (Which I don't. Though I guess they are technically living). I suppose he could be a dreadnought... Though I'm sure there would be mention of him somewhere, as he would be on par in age with Bjorn.
UNREALPwnage wrote:I want to see Sigismund in the next BT book, he isnt dead in any fluff and is the most faitful of all the space marines.
While it would be interesting to see the first Emperor's Champion represented, we know he is dead. We don't know how, but what we do know, is that Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels, is the oldest living loyal space marine. He's only what? 4,000, or was it 6,000 years old? I honestly don't remember, but even at 6,000, he's still younger than Sigismund, who was already several hundred years old when the battle for Terra took place, putting him well over 10,000 years old.
Though, it wouldn't be the first character to be put into a book who was already dead. But I still doubt it.
Back on topic, I would have to agree with what others have posted. It won't happen unless GW moves the story forward, which probably won't happen unless something really shakes the company up.
Dante is 1200 actually.
And Bjorn the Fellhanded is the oldest "living" space marine, he was at the emperors side.
UNREALPwnage wrote:I want to see Sigismund in the next BT book, he isnt dead in any fluff and is the most faitful of all the space marines.
While it would be interesting to see the first Emperor's Champion represented, we know he is dead. We don't know how, but what we do know, is that Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels, is the oldest living loyal space marine. He's only what? 4,000, or was it 6,000 years old? I honestly don't remember, but even at 6,000, he's still younger than Sigismund, who was already several hundred years old when the battle for Terra took place, putting him well over 10,000 years old.
Though, it wouldn't be the first character to be put into a book who was already dead. But I still doubt it.
Back on topic, I would have to agree with what others have posted. It won't happen unless GW moves the story forward, which probably won't happen unless something really shakes the company up.
Dante is 1200 actually.
And Bjorn the Fellhanded is the oldest "living" space marine, he was at the emperors side.
So were the current Chaos champions. Surely Abaddon would be likely older than Bjorn since his legion was around longer? (Shaky reasoning I know, but it seemed as if he was at Horus' side before the Emperor found him)
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UNREALPwnage wrote:I want to see Sigismund in the next BT book, he isnt dead in any fluff and is the most faitful of all the space marines.
While it would be interesting to see the first Emperor's Champion represented, we know he is dead. We don't know how, but what we do know, is that Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels, is the oldest living loyal space marine. He's only what? 4,000, or was it 6,000 years old? I honestly don't remember, but even at 6,000, he's still younger than Sigismund, who was already several hundred years old when the battle for Terra took place, putting him well over 10,000 years old.
Though, it wouldn't be the first character to be put into a book who was already dead. But I still doubt it.
Back on topic, I would have to agree with what others have posted. It won't happen unless GW moves the story forward, which probably won't happen unless something really shakes the company up.
Dante is 1200 actually.
And Bjorn the Fellhanded is the oldest "living" space marine, he was at the emperors side.
So were the current Chaos champions. Surely Abaddon would be likely older than Bjorn since his legion was around longer? (Shaky reasoning I know, but it seemed as if he was at Horus' side before the Emperor found him)
Nope. Cause time is A LOT slower in the eye of terror.
UNREALPwnage wrote:I want to see Sigismund in the next BT book, he isnt dead in any fluff and is the most faitful of all the space marines.
While it would be interesting to see the first Emperor's Champion represented, we know he is dead. We don't know how, but what we do know, is that Commander Dante, Chapter Master of the Blood Angels, is the oldest living loyal space marine. He's only what? 4,000, or was it 6,000 years old? I honestly don't remember, but even at 6,000, he's still younger than Sigismund, who was already several hundred years old when the battle for Terra took place, putting him well over 10,000 years old.
Though, it wouldn't be the first character to be put into a book who was already dead. But I still doubt it.
Back on topic, I would have to agree with what others have posted. It won't happen unless GW moves the story forward, which probably won't happen unless something really shakes the company up.
Dante is 1200 actually.
And Bjorn the Fellhanded is the oldest "living" space marine, he was at the emperors side.
So were the current Chaos champions. Surely Abaddon would be likely older than Bjorn since his legion was around longer? (Shaky reasoning I know, but it seemed as if he was at Horus' side before the Emperor found him)
The legions were created at the same time, Horus was just found before Russ
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Durza wrote:So were the current Chaos champions. Surely Abaddon would be likely older than Bjorn since his legion was around longer? (Shaky reasoning I know, but it seemed as if he was at Horus' side before the Emperor found him)
Indeed any survivors of the original Terran-born Astartes among the Traitor Legions would be older even than Abaddon. Very possibly they (and he) don't count, since, though they may technically be Bjorn's elders in the sense that they were born before him, they have presumably not, thanks to time in the Eye of Terror being wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey, in fact lived as long.
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Yeah, but Abaddon is by that logic, recruited earlier then bjorn. Unless Bjorn came from the terra legions and wasn't one of the dudes running around with Russ on Fenris, because purely by discovery, he'd have been found later then abaddon.
But it's all pedantics anyway, cause time in the EOT is slower.
Soladrin wrote:Yeah, but Abaddon is by that logic, recruited earlier then bjorn. Unless Bjorn came from the terra legions and wasn't one of the dudes running around with Russ on Fenris, because purely by discovery, he'd have been found later then abaddon.
But it's all pedantics anyway, cause time in the EOT is slower.
That one depends on the writer. Some say it meddles with ageing, others that it actually does slow time. Though considering how crazy the warp is, it's also likely that they live a few hundred years in a week every now and again.
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Ok were way off topic now but to OP primarchs prolly won't come back.
As to Sigisimund returning prolly won't happen would be cool. As for him being dead and coming back not being possible just let Matt ward right the codex and the universe is the limit for stupidity.
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