| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/15 17:58:04
Subject: [Grey Knights][2000]
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
Current list as posted lower in thread:
Grey Knights
Crowe
Venerable Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon, Psybolt Ammo
Venerable Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon, Psybolt Ammo
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 1 Halberd, 1 Hammer, 1 Warding Stave, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 1 Halberd, 1 Hammer, 1 Warding Stave, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Total - 2000
Thanks!
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/02/17 16:27:36
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/15 18:02:17
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
|
get 6 units of purifers either rhino or razorback psy ammo.
then have your dreadnought but also get a vendread and upgrade another to be a vendread, they are amazing.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/15 18:02:21
Subject: Re:No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Kid_Kyoto
|
They're practically the same list. Roll the d6.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/15 20:44:49
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Dakka Veteran
Upper East Side of the USA
|
I choose NONE.
Alright, if I had to pick one, #5. I like having a couple of big squads who can fit in one transport if they aren't combat squadded.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/15 23:44:53
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
Current list as posted lower in thread:
Grey Knights
Crowe
Venerable Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon, Psybolt Ammo
Venerable Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon, Psybolt Ammo
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 1 Halberd, 1 Hammer, 1 Warding Stave, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 1 Halberd, 1 Hammer, 1 Warding Stave, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Total - 200
|
|
This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2012/02/17 16:27:48
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/15 23:55:46
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
|
I like it, razorback spam is pretty nice looking
Psybolt ammo
x40 Greyknights +3 dreads + 5 razorbacks. Looks good to me.
Does every squad need x2 halberds?
|
The purpose of argument is informative discourse, not to see who finishes in front.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 03:43:56
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
Thanks for the response!
I ended up going with something else entirely. I think Rhinos are the way to go too.
I'm going to heavily playtest this before making any changes:
Grey Knights
Crowe
Venerable Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon, Psybolt Ammo
Venerable Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, TL Autocannon, Psybolt Ammo
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, MC Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 1 Halberd, 1 Hammer, 1 Warding Stave, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 1 Halberd, 1 Hammer, 1 Warding Stave, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Total - 2000
|
|
This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/02/17 04:45:22
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 04:03:29
Subject: Re:No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
TX, US
|
It's hard to decide isnt it?
GK have a ton of options, and Crowe lists are amongst the best. Looks like a mean list, with 4 Dreads and 30 Purifiers. I like 2 TL Autocannons on my Dreads but it makes sense to put the Assault Cannons on the Ven Dreads if you plan on getting close with them anyway.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 06:20:10
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Shepherd
|
May want to add search lights and dozers so you arent hindered or possibly imobilize your short rang assault.
|
The enemy of my enemy is a bastard so lets kill him too.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 15:22:16
Subject: Re:No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
davidgr33n wrote:It's hard to decide isnt it? GK have a ton of options, and Crowe lists are amongst the best. Looks like a mean list, with 4 Dreads and 30 Purifiers. I like 2 TL Autocannons on my Dreads but it makes sense to put the Assault Cannons on the Ven Dreads if you plan on getting close with them anyway. That's my plan!
|
|
This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2012/02/17 15:29:07
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 16:19:41
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
|
Your last list looks like the best to me (not number the 6 the one posted later).
Rhinos are the best bet with Purifiers if going down the Psycannon spam route and it doesn't include the random out of place strikes and interceptors.
However what I'd suggest is, drop all the hammers. You shouldn;pt need them in assault. With hammer hand you're woulding on 3s anyway and going before furious charging marines is a huge boon. |You shouldn't need the hammer for walkers or MCs as they should all be toast long before they get near your purifiers. The warding staves I'd never considered but they might work well (ensuring you take no damage when assaulting that 5 man squad with a powerfist).
However the Ven dreads look wierd. Are they firebase or short ranegd support?
If firebase they need 2 twinlinked autocannons, the reason being range, the biggest (in fact the only) weakness your purifier squads have. If you're going to play aggressively with them then dump the autocannon and keep the fist for assault. Personally I'd keep at least 1 for fire base preferably both as they do something that the rest of the army doesn't, but I could see the advantages of sending 1 forward with the Purifiers to help with target saturation and to secure enemy objectives.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/30 22:24:03
Subject: No less than 6 Grey Knight lists that I can't decide between
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
FlingitNow wrote:Your last list looks like the best to me (not number the 6 the one posted later). Thanks! FlingitNow wrote:Rhinos are the best bet with Purifiers if going down the Psycannon spam route and it doesn't include the random out of place strikes and interceptors. Agreed. FlingitNow wrote:However what I'd suggest is, drop all the hammers. You shouldn;pt need them in assault. With hammer hand you're woulding on 3s anyway and going before furious charging marines is a huge boon. |You shouldn't need the hammer for walkers or MCs as they should all be toast long before they get near your purifiers. The Hammers can be S10. This helps against all vehicles. Against MCs, I like knowing I've got an easy go-to Force Weapon. I'd rather have one "just in case." I don't really see a regular Marine squad killing the rest of the Purifiers (and causing me to lose my Hammer attacks). FlingitNow wrote:The warding staves I'd never considered but they might work well (ensuring you take no damage when assaulting that 5 man squad with a powerfist). They sure are expensive, but I think they have their merit. If they work even once, they've bought their points back (as opposed to simply having another Marine). FlingitNow wrote:However the Ven dreads look wierd. Are they firebase or short ranegd support? If firebase they need 2 twinlinked autocannons, the reason being range, the biggest (in fact the only) weakness your purifier squads have. If you're going to play aggressively with them then dump the autocannon and keep the fist for assault. Personally I'd keep at least 1 for fire base preferably both as they do something that the rest of the army doesn't, but I could see the advantages of sending 1 forward with the Purifiers to help with target saturation and to secure enemy objectives. The Ven Dreads will move up and provide Reinforced Aegis as well as tarpitting. With only 2 Attacks, I don't really like the Doomfist, even if it's WS5. I have plenty of Hammers for anti-enemy Walkers and MCs. I think I'd rather have 4 more S8 shots per turn.
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/02/17 16:24:49
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 16:39:59
Subject: Re:[Grey Knights][2000]
|
 |
Kid_Kyoto
|
Well, that list actually looks strikingly similar to jy2's Purifier Spam list. You might check out some of his battle reports to see how he's been doing with it. It looks like you have more than him though, but I think he does 1500 usually. He might also do razorbacks.
As far as the list itself goes, it looks effective, if not somewhat boring. I like the vendreads with assault cannons as well as autocannons, and I've toyed around with the idea of doing something similar myself. I would like to know how those work out for you.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 16:42:51
Subject: Re:[Grey Knights][2000]
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
daedalus wrote:Well, that list actually looks strikingly similar to jy2's Purifier Spam list. You might check out some of his battle reports to see how he's been doing with it. It looks like you have more than him though, but I think he does 1500 usually. He might also do razorbacks. His 2000 point list is similar. He likes having a regular Strike Squad for Warp Quake / a ride for Crowe. As far as the list itself goes, it looks effective, if not somewhat boring. I like the vendreads with assault cannons as well as autocannons, and I've toyed around with the idea of doing something similar myself. I would like to know how those work out for you. I'm convinced it's a good setup. We'll have to see how actual playtesting goes! 4 S7 Rending shots sounds better than 2 TL S8 shots to me. With BS5, the investment sounds even more awesome. What about this: Grey Knights Crowe 10 Purifiers - Warding Stave, 6 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino 10 Purifiers - Warding Stave, 6 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino 5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino 5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino 5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino 5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Psybolt Ammo Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo Total - 1995 5 points to spare. Still no ride for Crowe. Warding Staves would be on the Keepers of the Flame. I still intend to have a pair of Dreads moving up and providing Reinforced Aegis and tarpitting. Each one would basically shadow a 10-man squad. I think it looks a lot better otherwise though.
|
|
This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2012/02/18 05:39:31
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 19:22:56
Subject: Re:[Grey Knights][2000]
|
 |
Kid_Kyoto
|
The 10 man purifier squads are nice, but I think I'd rather see the vendreads in action. As close as you have to get with the assault cannons, you're probably going to want the protection that being venerable gets you.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/18 05:39:58
Subject: [Grey Knights][2000]
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
I think this will be it:
Grey Knights
Crowe
Ordo Xenos Inquisitor - Rad Grenades, Psychotroke Grenades, Psyker Upgrade, Hammerhand
9 Purifiers - Warding Stave, 5 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
9 Purifiers - Warding Stave, 5 Halberds, 1 Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Purifiers - 2 Halberds, Hammer, 2 Psycannons, Rhino
5 Strike Squad Grey Knights - Psycannon, Razorback with Psybolt Ammo
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Dreadnought - 2 TL Autocannons, Psybolt Ammo
Total - 1999
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/02/18 22:18:17
|
|
|
 |
 |
|
|