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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 01:14:54
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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When it says re-roll one of the unit's d6 rolls does it mean just 1 dice or all?
Sorry if this is a stupid question.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 01:18:56
Subject: Re:Necron chronomtron question
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Just 1. Although you can reroll 1 for Storm (nightfight ability), 1 for move thru cover, 1 for to hit or wound, 1 for assaulting thru cover.
Reroll 1d6 each PHASE.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 01:24:01
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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Thats what I thought. Just wanted to make sure. I actually hadn't caught the each phase thing.
Thanks for the quick response.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 05:15:02
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Tilter at Windmills
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And it has to be a d6 roll. Not a 2d6 roll (like Morale) or part of a 2d6 roll, as page 2 of the rulebook says you can't re-roll one die out of a 2d6 roll unless you have a rule explicitly telling you that you're allowed to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 07:53:14
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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Mannahnin wrote:And it has to be a d6 roll. Not a 2d6 roll (like Morale) or part of a 2d6 roll, as page 2 of the rulebook says you can't re-roll one die out of a 2d6 roll unless you have a rule explicitly telling you that you're allowed to.
Technically there is a competing interpretation to this perspective. Not that there is anything wrong with Mannahnin's interpretation. If you're interested there's another thread about Chronometerons and Deepstriking which discusses how re-rolls in detail. Its a little technical so if you're new to rules lawyering it may be a bit confusing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 08:37:14
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There is a competing interpretation, but it relies on ignoring that the rulebook defines a D6 roll and a 2D6 roll as 2 separate and distinct entities, and states that in order to reroll part of a 2D6 roll you must have explicit permission to do so - somehting a Chronometron lacks.
So you cannot reroll part of a difficult terrain move, part of a leadership test, etc, as these are all 2D6 rolls, not D6 rolls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 20:01:06
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Sneaky Lictor
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nosferatu1001 wrote:There is a competing interpretation, but it relies on ignoring that the rulebook defines a D6 roll and a 2D6 roll as 2 separate and distinct entities, and states that in order to reroll part of a 2D6 roll you must have explicit permission to do so - somehting a Chronometron lacks.
So you cannot reroll part of a difficult terrain move, part of a leadership test, etc, as these are all 2D6 rolls, not D6 rolls.
You had me until you mentioned difficult terrain move. Difficult terrain test is two unique d6 rolls "Roll two D6 and select the highest...", not 2D6, thus Choron would allow one of those d6 rolls to be rerolled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 22:20:25
Subject: Re:Necron chronomtron question
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Oh Christ. Here we go again with the D6-1D6 junk. I will play reroll 1 of the 2,3,or 90million until an FAQ clears it up. Just be glad you don't have to play me and stop complaining. Bet you're a Marine player. I drop this mass generalization because whenever any codex (other than murheenz) get something nice, Muhreen players are the first to start cying about it and trying to rules lawyer it away. Bugs I understand.... theyre just mad their book got defecated on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 22:31:20
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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The Hive Mind
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So... The rules say you're wrong, but you're going to accuse others of injecting bias?
How's about a rules based argument instead of ad hominem?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 22:57:33
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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rigeld2 wrote:So... The rules say you're wrong, but you're going to accuse others of injecting bias? How's about a rules based argument instead of ad hominem? Should have known you'd show up here. lol I'll not argue with you, since that seems to be your "tackling fuel". I have stated how I will play this until clarified. Please... continue to explain how 2d6 is different than 2* D6..... oh... wait.... that was another thread. Now; to quote a wise man: Frazzled wrote: I'm out of this thread. I'll leave it to the happy friends network to agree with each other.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 23:00:27
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Huge Bone Giant
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gregor_xenos wrote:I have stated how I will play this until clarified. Please... continue to explain how 2d6 is different than 2*D6
Read TheGreatAvatar's response. The rules DO clarify. Automatically Appended Next Post: gregor_xenos wrote:Should have known you'd show up here. lol YMDC? That is not odd.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 23:17:40
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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The Hive Mind
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gregor_xenos wrote:rigeld2 wrote:So... The rules say you're wrong, but you're going to accuse others of injecting bias?
How's about a rules based argument instead of ad hominem?
Should have known you'd show up here. lol
I'll not argue with you, since that seems to be your "tackling fuel". I have stated how I will play this until clarified. Please... continue to explain how 2d6 is different than 2* D6..... oh... wait.... that was another thread.
Now; to quote a wise man:
Frazzled wrote:
I'm out of this thread. I'll leave it to the happy friends network to agree with each other.
Great - so no rules basis for your statements, you just happen to dislike me for some reason.
I'm okay with that - I've never felt the need to be popular. I do take offense, however, to your implication that what I've said is wrong and that me and anyone who agrees with me is just bitter or has some other agenda.
You're free to disagree with me. I'd appreciate the respect of a rules based disagreement if you're going to bother posting, however. Automatically Appended Next Post: kirsanth wrote:
gregor_xenos wrote:Should have known you'd show up here. lol YMDC? That is not odd.
Yeah, it's not like 98% of my 2k-ish posts are in YMDC or anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/16 23:53:45
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ooops- forgot that its a 2xD6 roll, not a 2D6 roll
Gregor - the rules are clear, yet you need GW to clarify them again?
Fair enough.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 00:47:40
Subject: Necron chronomtron question
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Fixture of Dakka
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<thread terminated; check your baggage at the door, folks, or you'll find yourself kicked out of the restaurant.>
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