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I might be missing this somewhere is faq but have not seen it yet and i have been asking around at my locals with no luck. My question is this: if you look at warbikers, gutsmek, or even stormboyz they don t have waaagh! specail rule, but if nobz have it and they can upgrade to bikes. So if a nob upgrades to the bike do the still keep waaagh! or do they lose it, my guess is they keep it cause i can find nothing in the codex to say that they would not keep it. Plz let me know if you can shed for light on this thanks.

Well, they can keep it, or lose it. Since Bikers can't "run" it doesn't do them any good to have it. Waaagh! just gives orks fleet of foot, which is something no biker in any army can benefit from.

can t find where it says you lose fleet of foot or bikes can t fleet

All fleet does is allow you to assault after running. Bikes cannot Run. Therefore bikes cannot benefit from Fleet.

Page 53: "Bikes cannot run in the Shooting phase."

Bikes can't run, so they can't fleet by extension.

ie, no, Nob Warbikers can't fleet.

Edit: Double ninja'd!

Well, if they do get fleet somehow it won't do them any good - because all Fleet does is allow you to assault after running. Since they can't run, it does nothing.

Which is probably why they don't benefit from WAAGH!.

kk thanks for clearing up, just couldn't find in faq

As a final nail in the coffin, the Waaagh! rule itself only gives fleet to infantry units. P31 of C:Orks "all friendly Ork infantry units have"

So, even if a squad of bikes or jump infantry had the Waaagh! rule, they wouldn't get fleet.

I thought Deff Dreads had WAAAGH too ?

Would this apply to Ghaz's Prophet of the Waugh too? Not really concerned about the fleet, but the fearless portion.