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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 18:56:34
Subject: My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Ok. I am fairly new to mini wargaming (6-7 months into it). I have a good grasp of the rules and I haved played a few games with my 1k point army.Recently, I came into possesion of a few more pieces, making my army roughly 2k if I use all the pieces. Here's my list. Feedback is much appreciated.
HQ
85 - Big Mek w/ KFF
85 - Big Mek w/ KFF
Elite
280 - 7 x Nobz w/ 2x PK, 2x Big Choppa, Painboy(grot orderly), 7x Cybork, 6x Bosspole(Going in wagon w/ Big Mek)
120 - 8 Lootaz
105 - 7 Lootaz
[b]Troop
162 - 12 Boyz, included Nob w/ PK, BP, Trukk( RPJ, AP)
162 - 12 Boyz, included Nob w/ PK, BP, Trukk( RPJ, AP)
154 - 19 Shoota Boyz, included Nob w/ PK, BP. (Going in wagon w/ Big Mek)
112 - 11 Shoota Boyz w/ Nob+ PK+ BP(foot)
112 - 12 Boyz, Included Nob w/ PK, BP(foot)
[b]Fast Attack
165- 5x Warbikes w/ Nob+ PK+ BP
140- 4 Warbikes w/ Nob+ PK+ BP
[b]Heavy Support
145 - Battlewagon w/ RPJ, Grot Riggers, 4 Big Shootaz, Deff rolla
145 - Battlewagon w/ RPJ, Grot Riggers, 4 Big Shootaz, Deff rolla
Like I said, I'm somewhat new so I don't have a full grasp of target priority, and stuff like that. Any help is great. Critique the crap out of it. Thanks!
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/02/18 05:13:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 20:07:40
Subject: My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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You are solid on the Big Meks.
Nobz are decent, I would mix up the load out a little more, 2 PK, 2 Big Choppas, 2 Standard, one of each with bosspole. this will maximize wound allocation when it gets into the nitty gritty. 7 is a good number for them. Also. Cut the Meks, they are a waste of points.
Lootas are always a solid choice, I would split them in half, probably run 8 and 8 just to allow split fire and keep one moral test from neutering your heavy weapons.
Also. Cut the Meks, they are a waste of points.
Now in your troops section, you really want them all to hit around the same time. I would cut the shoota squad down to two mobs and stick them in trukks. Same deal as the other mobs. Even better yet, run extra wagons and put mobs of 20 in them.
Fast attack is decent, although again, consider splitting into a couple of squads, you get an extra nob that way, and can keep the enemy busy on multiple fronts
Heavy support is not bad, but you arre spending a lot of points of a wagon that should be dedicated to either moving or shooting. For your layout, drop the kill kannon and 'Ard case, use the deffrolla and get a bunch of Nobz and a Big Mek stuck in that bad boy to cover your advance. Then use the deffrolla to mash anything you see in your path. Two battle wagons is preferable, and three would be even better. This allows you to put larger mobs in where you want them and the deffrollas have a hug potential to smash other vehicles and push enemy troops around.
I am not familiar with Da Gorespeeda, I could use some help there. I assume it is a Forge World model?
The ideal tactic in ork armies is to get all your boys to the same place at the same time. Either walk them all or put them all in trukks or wagons and hit with everything you have got.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 21:10:20
Subject: Re:My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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True. That makes sense to have them all hit at once.
I will do that with the Nobz! Thank you!
Do you mean cut down on the meks for the lootaz? Splitting them up does sound more logical so I don't lose them in one go.
Da Gorespeeda was just an example name for a Battlewagon with RPJ, riggers, stikkbomb chukka and 4 big shootas, just a fancy name for the particular wagon lol
I'll strip the other wagon of the KillKannon and ard case.
So, put 15 shootaz in each wagon? I only have 30 shoota boyz.
Yea good point with the bikes, 2 nobs coming from different directions is better than one big group with only 1 nob.
I will also put a deffrolla on the other wagon.
What weapons should I have on the transport wagons? Big shootaz?
Should I have each Big Mek in a Battlewagon?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/17 22:03:42
Subject: My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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Yeah, don't worry about taking meks in the loota squads, they will not give you any real benefit.
I would run at least on big shoota per wagon, to soak up a 'weapon destroyed' result.
Running two wagons with a big mek in each allows you to move up and cover more of the field with the KFF. Get your Trukks in around the wagons and they will all benefit from the 4+ obscured saves, giving you a much better chance of getting where you want to be.
As for who goes where, I would run the nobz in one wagon with a Big Mek, and 19 boyz in the other with a nob and Big Mek. I would then run 2 mobs of 12 and 2 mobs of 11 in trukks (if you have four trukks).
once you have it sorted you will have a pretty decent speed freaks list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/18 00:13:50
Subject: Re:My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I concur with most of what's been said already, so I won't belabor that. However, are you transporting your Big Meks? It looks like you've filled up your trukks and your battlewagon with lots of boys, which is good, but you've left your Big Meks in the dust. Without a way to move the Big Meks quickly, they and they're extremely useful 4+ cover save won't do you much good. You might also want to consider putting the Nobz mob in the Battlewagon, something that killy filled with a unit that dead killy is sure to draw a lot of fire away from the boyz and your bikes, two things that can't afford to be shot at early in the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/18 00:36:53
Subject: Re:My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Screamin' Stormboy
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You need to put a nob in with your boyz and you can have 15 in a wagon. Is this all the units you have to work with?? If you want drop me a line and i can send you a few ideas if you would like, orks are my main and first army i started with. I still love them even after am getting rdy to start my 4th army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/18 02:08:22
Subject: My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
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You can have 20 in a wagon.
The Big Meks will fit nicely in the battle wagons (transport cap. of 20 as stated above). This will give him the ability to run trukks around them and everyone benefit from KFF.
Really a pretty standard Speed Freaks list. Although I would like to reiterate that a third Battle Wagon would make it even harder better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/18 18:07:26
Subject: Re:My first 40k army ever. 2000 point Ork Speed freak list.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Thanks for all the feedback guys, especially Slick. I've already changed the roster around a bit. The math may not be correct because I was changing it last night, half asleep, at 2 am lol. I would like to get an additional battlewagon, and maybe run another mob of boyz, and more bikes(when I can afford it). Also, are kans or dreads viable for a speed freak list? I've heard of kan walls to protect your boyz which might help them while slogging around. Plus the Big Meks can take a Dread as a troop choice. Would Flash Gitz go well for supporting heavy fire with the Lootaz? That just seems like it would be very killy.
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