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Howdy all, I had a quick question. If you have the ability to make GK fight themselves, via MSS, or enemy GK psyk grenades as some examples, then does the unit attacking itself benefit from its own grenades?

Basicly, if you force a unit with Rad and Psyk grenades to swing at itself, is the unit's toughness lowered and do they have to roll on the random table?

No. Grenades happen before you start the initiative passes, so there's never a time when a traitor GK could use his nades against his own unit.

DevianID wrote:Howdy all, I had a quick question. If you have the ability to make GK fight themselves, via MSS, or enemy GK psyk grenades as some examples, then does the unit attacking itself benefit from its own grenades?

Basicly, if you force a unit with Rad and Psyk grenades to swing at itself, is the unit's toughness lowered and do they have to roll on the random table?

Would say no, the rule is written as when launching an assault or being assaulted, roll a die for each enemy unit being assaulted or assaulting. Both are worded this way. Since you aren't assaulting the guys in your squad, and they aren't an enemy unit (i think most effects that make you swing on your own state "attack his own squad" or some such), I'd say no they wouldn't trigger on their own unit.

Wouldnt you also roll for the 'Traitor' before initiative?

Edit: Ah... if it specifies enemy squads only then I suppose it wouldnt work. Thanks Targetawg!