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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/20 15:08:58
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Flailing Flagellant
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Hi Everyone,
I am making a switch from 40k and getting into Fantasy and wanted to know where to invest money as well as best options for the ogre army at around a 2k army and then where to expand from there.
I am currently reading both the codex and manual and want to know where to spend points and build a list possible. I want to have an army thats heavy hitting and can get into the action fast. I was wondering how to build a calvary centered Ogre army, if at all possible? What sort of point distribution is needed? I was going to get the battalion box to help start the army and build from there.
Thanks a bunch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/20 15:20:20
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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You can't go all cavalry, you can get multiple units of mournfang cavalry, but no characters can get mournfangs. ironguts are ace, sabretusks are essential for war machine hunting.
What do you want to find out about point distrubution? like minimum core 25% and all?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/20 15:30:53
Subject: Re:Starting an Ogre army
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Flailing Flagellant
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I figure I want to spend as little points in calvary and the rest elsewhere. Could you make up a list that would show the Ogres to get into combat the fastest and hit as much as possible per turn. I would like to have as much mounted/calvary as well as magic as possible for a 2k army. I am still trying to figure it out and seeing a list and distribution would help tremendously. Automatically Appended Next Post: The reason for a whole calvary army was because I was hoping to make them based on ironskin tribe. I found this PDF and was hoping to build somehting around it.
http://houstonfb.com/RhinoxCavalry.pdf
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/20 18:07:11
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/20 22:10:12
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Ah but the book doesn't include rhinos cavalry bro,
Slaughter master
Fire belly
Bsb
15 iron guts
2x4 mourn fang cavalry
3x1 sabre tooth
That's probably around the 2k mark and pretty much what my cousin fields and does well with
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 14:05:53
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Flailing Flagellant
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what about Thundertusks or Stonehorns, What is the advantage of the hunter and a pack of Sabretooth's?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 15:08:09
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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I don't see any advantages of a hunter, but the sabretooths go after war machines mainly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 16:33:51
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Flailing Flagellant
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Isnt that a gorger specialty though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 17:59:00
Subject: Re:Starting an Ogre army
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The Ogres have 3 tools for war machines including Sabretusks, Gorgers, Ironblasters. Gorgers are the worst option though because the Sabres and the Ironblasters are useful in other ways too and Sabres are cheaper.
Technically, you could field 3 units of 4 mournfang Cavalry as your fastest, hardest hitting troops. It is kinda  though and not intended for friendly matches.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 18:13:08
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Flailing Flagellant
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I want to make a tough list so that I can play different strategies and last as long as possible. I thought having lots of calvary would be good since the Ogres have a slowish movement rate.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 22:20:09
Subject: Re:Starting an Ogre army
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Normal Ogres actually move 6" and march 12" so they are actually the fastest moving infantry in the game. They are faster than elves or rats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 23:40:51
Subject: Re:Starting an Ogre army
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Crazed Flagellant
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Calvary is a cool aspect of warhammer but ogres aren't really strong in it. In fact they only have Mournfang calvary in special. Yhettis are not very good but if you use them use them like calvary. If you really like calvary play brettonia. Automatically Appended Next Post: Calvary is a cool aspect of warhammer but ogres aren't really strong in it. In fact they only have Mournfang calvary in special. Yhettis are not very good but if you use them use them like calvary. If you really like calvary play brettonia.
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ThePhenomenalZ
Warhammer 40,000:
1250 Orks
1500 IG
Fantasy:
1000 pt Ogre
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/21 23:49:55
Subject: Re:Starting an Ogre army
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Lord of the Fleet
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thephenomenalZ wrote:Calvary is a cool aspect of warhammer but ogres aren't really strong in it. In fact they only have Mournfang calvary in special
That may be true, but Mournfangs are one of the best cavalry in the game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 14:32:18
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Flailing Flagellant
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Appreciate all the feedback so far. Does anyone have a list or could make a 2k list focusing on maxing out calvary, with stonehorn/thundertusk. I really want to see how other people construct a list that has good magic and calvary. Since I am making the switch soon I just need to know where the majorety of points needs to be allocated.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 21:37:03
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I don't think going all/mostly calv is a good idea with Ogres. You'll have so few models on the table your opponent will be able to tear them apart with war machines/magic and you'll have no way of dealing with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 21:43:32
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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It's probably worth noting that Ogre armies are pretty damn fast even without cavalry, certainly speedier than most.
It's their muscly legs, see.
That and given the limited nature of Ogre cavalry, it's actually much better to use foot troops, if only so that you don't get overrun and ripped to bits by more numerous armies.
However, Mournfangs are the bees' knees, and I'd reccomend having one solid unit of four of them in your army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/22 21:56:22
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Flailing Flagellant
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Sounds good. Now for regular troops should I do a mix of normal troops and ironguts, all ironguts or all regular troops. Of course they have BSB and the usual wargear to bolster their forces.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 02:25:41
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Lord of the Fleet
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I prefer mixes, although some people advocate no ironguts while others field nothing but them (and sometimes Irongut Deathstars)
I think a 2-1 ratio of bull units to ironguts is good
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/25 02:14:44
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Powerful Irongut
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Just have a go yourself is my advice.
New ogres give you a lot of fun when writing lists and whilst mournfang are freaking hard. They will get magicked at; all the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/26 01:51:14
Subject: Starting an Ogre army
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Crazed Gorger
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While mournfangs are fun and good at smashing things, they often draw a lot of fire from war-machines and wizards. Things like warp-lighting cannons are really annoying when they take out half your unit.
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