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HQ:
Eldrad Ulthran

Elites:
Fire Dragons x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL Shuriken Cannon)
Fire Dragons x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL Shuriken Cannon)
Fire Dragons x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL EML)

Troops:
Dire Avengers x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL EML)
Dire Avengers x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL EML)
Dire Avengers x5
(Mounted in Falcon W/ Eldrad)

Fast Attack:
Vyper- EML
Vyper- EML

Heavy Support:
Falcon- EML, Pulse Laser, Holofields
War Walker Squadron- Scatter Lasers All (x3)
War Walker Squadron- Scatter Lasers All (x3)

So thats my swing at it, FIRE AWAY. Oh yeah the Vypers are kinda just there, i didnt know what else to put in there since i couldnt fit another wave serpent and troop squad in. I was thinking about buying spirit stones on the Falcon and buying a Guardian jetbike squad of 3 with a warlock w/ spear and shurkin Cannon instead but you get the idea

I would suggest taking the vipers out and adding some more guys to your dire avenger squads. IMHO dire avenger squads are only good in 10 man units with bladestorm.

Bladestorm is good...but i'm going as Mechanized as i can. If i can help it the Dire avengers wont ever leave their serpents unless theyre wreck, cratered or to sit on an objective somewhere in easter bumble feth lol

Ok, but I do think 15 fire dragons is a bit overkill.

I personally would take Suriken Cannons on the War Walkers, there not as good, but they're what, 10 points cheaper? Even if their 5, that still saves you 60 points, or 120 if there 10 points cheaper.

Also, i'm never sure about Eldrad in a Mechdar list, very good character, but i'm just not sure you need the bonus' he gives the army, I think a single Doom or Guide seer is enough (with runes of which ever one makes enemy take ld on 3D6).

Even if you do none of the above, I think jetbikes would be more useful than Vypers.
Also Fire Dragons in Falcon=no that effective, it seems like a good idea, but Anti-tank and anti-tank (well especially close and long range) don't really compliment each other very well, I think your probably fine with just two squads.

A squad that I always think will do well is a tri-flamer Storm Guardian squad (inc Warlock), them in a Wave Serpent could be pretty handy.

Hail, Eldar Brethren.

If you removed all your War Walkers and Vipers, you could add this for an even points swap.

185 - Falcon, 2 Shuriken Cannons, Holofield, Spiritstones
185 - Falcon, 2 Shuriken Cannons, Holofield, Spiritstones

60 - 5 Dire Avengers
60 - 5 Dire Avengers

You'll lose some firepower, but also get rid of your lightly armored vehicles, and gain 2 tough as nails scoring units, still with decent firepower. Reference this link http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/431592.page for conversation on the survivability of making Falcons scoring units.

Having 5 Wave Serpents and 3 Falcons definitely isn't bad. I know Eldrad is respectably good, but I might also consider swapping him for a regular Farseer (or two) to ride amongst transports bolstering their firepower, adding one more 5 man Dire Avenger Squad for the last Falcon and maybe adding Spiritstones to all of your Dire Avenger Transports, to ensure Eldar trickery and evasive maneuvers. A stunned tank is extremely fragile when you only run tanks.

It also seems like Footslogging a squad of Fire Dragons is not so good. They make a mediocre at best retinue for Eldrad ... maybe reconsider that too?

Just my two cents. Looks like a very fun list, either way!



EDIT: I see Eldrad and Fire Dragons were intended in the Falcon. Well, in the previous link I posted, Fire Dragons were recommended against going in Falcons ever, to keep Falcons safe, maybe just swap a squad of Dragons for Dire Avengers instead? Make Eldrad a scoring unit? (sort of)

Eldrad is there so i can fortune war walker squads, plus he is just too good not to take. And i would actually consider the shurkien Cannons if they werent 24 inch range ya see? I like the whole Alaitoc idea, Kill from afar (Fire dragons being counter productive there but theyre just awesome) btw i actually would take more if i could lol And i was thinking of swapping the Avengers into the Falcon and putting Eldrad and the dragons into a serpent anyway so that answers that question.


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Also i just want to try the Vypers out, obviously i'm gonna proxy test this list out but i see them being like long range land speeders but who knows they really could suck lol I could switch them out for 5 pathfinders and buy the spirit stones on the falcon but we'll see where things end up. Personally i just want to keep the vypers cause they look cool lmao

I like your list, for a competitive environment at least but I would rather put the fire dragons in a Wave Serpent cause they are gonna get close & personal so that's probably near some melta, also because personally I've always preferred the Energy FIeld to the Holofield. I guess your Idea is run circles and blow things around, I'm not sure about the Vypers though I would maybe fit in a Fire Prism or something and I wouldn't put Eldar with the Fire Dragons, not that they need to get guided anyway.

And that's just my 0.02

Eldrad is hanging out with the Dire Avengers in the Falcon now. And i would love to put a prism in but i dont want to lose any walkers...

One idea I'm tossing around for my Eldar list is Shuriken Cannons on Vipers with an EML, because you can move 12" & fire both weapons if you use the EML template, being a defensive weapon at S4. That's a lotta mobile dakka on hoardes.

I feel like there's lots of potential for combining EML's and Shuriken Cannons in general, maybe on this list, for added firepower, especially given your love of the EML here. Might be an unwise investment, all the same.

I'm pretty sure they cant do that lol Only Dark eldar and Necrons can aerial assault. But any fast vehicle can move 6' and fire all, 12' and fire one. I totally missed the part about missile launchers in template form, Yeah not a bad Idea,

I would buff one dire avenger squad to 10 with defend and exa with shimmershield. With eldrad, that squad can be a very effective tarpit. Better eldrad in there then in a suicide dragon squad.

Since you ignored the whole conversation about me swapping dragons into a wave serpent and avengers into the falcon i edited the list for everyone......ON THAT NOTE...why am i trying to tarpit with eldar....? It makes literally no sense...no offense. But its not like avengers are gonna be killing much besides Vets or grots in combat and more importantly, i want the combat to end as swiftly as possible either way so i can jump away from it and blow it to hell. Isnt that what Eldar does?

It looks much better now with the DAs in a Falcon. What I would do tho is drop the Vypers and a Walker and take another DAVU squad with a EML serpent and just downgrade the third FD squads serpent to a Shuriken Cannon serpent. Will give you 4 scoring units for little loss in fire power.


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So something like this with your previous list in mind. However, I would personally look into getting some Night spinners, str 6 spam struggles against todays FnP shenaningans ect

HQ:
Eldrad Ulthran

Elites:
Fire Dragons x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL Shuriken Cannon)
Fire Dragons x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL Shuriken Cannon)
Fire Dragons x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL Shuriken Cannon)


Troops:
Dire Avengers x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL EML,Cannon)
Dire Avengers x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL EML, Cannon)
Dire Avengers x5
(Wave Serpent W/ TL EML)
Dire Avengers x5
(Mounted in Falcon W/ Eldrad)

Heavy Support:
Falcon- EML, Pulse Laser, Holofields
War Walker Squadron- Scatter Lasers All (x3)
War Walker Squadron- Scatter Lasers All (x2)