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A friend of mine raised an interesting question about the burna boys' special rule where they can use their burnas as power weapons in an assault. Here's what the rule from the codex says:

BURNAS: Burnas are ideal for slicing up scrap *yadda yadda*. A burna may be used in the Shooting Phase with the profile below, or as a power weapon in an assault, but not both in the same turn.

Here's the scenario:
Ork Turn: Burnas shoot at something, attempting to turn their target(s) to ash. Ork turn ends after this.
Opponent's Turn: Enemy unit assaults burna boys.

Here's the question:
Will the burnas' attacks be power weapons because it has moved on to the next player turn? Or does the rule in the codex mean to say that "turn" is a "Game Turn?"

Also, my own question would be, does this power weapon option only last for one turn, or can it be used if the Burna Boyz live for several assault phases?

To me that reads that they are one or the other on the ork players turn, I was playing a guy the other day who only used it on his turn during his assaults. Seems like something that would be in the FAQ though.

With no other specification, turn means player turn. So they'll pretty much always be power weapons on the opponents turn.

I would say they count as PWs but only if the enemy player got the first turn because I think when they say turn they mean global turn and not player own turn.

illuknisaa wrote:I would say they count as PWs but only if the enemy player got the first turn because I think when they say turn they mean global turn and not player own turn.

I think what you think they think is not what they actually think

Q: What is meant when the term ‘turn’ is used? (p9)
A: Whenever the word turn is used it means player
turn. Otherwise it will clearly state game turn. In a
complete game turn both players get a player turn.
Hence one game turn will comprise two player turns.

illuknisaa wrote:I would say they count as PWs but only if the enemy player got the first turn because I think when they say turn they mean global turn and not player own turn.

Well, I figured that when a codex says "turn" it is referring to that player's turn specifically. I never really considered the scenario I gave earlier until my friend mentioned it. He tends to agree that in that scenario, they would count as power weapons. Initially I disagreed with him, but after I thought about it, I couldn't find any solid proof that he was wrong.

And the FAQ is characteristically mute on the matter.

EDIT: Jidmah, yes, it DOES say that. I do remember reading that at some point. My often-wrong friend is actually right for a change.

illuknisaa wrote:I would say they count as PWs but only if the enemy player got the first turn because I think when they say turn they mean global turn and not player own turn.

Reading page 9 in the rulebook is your friend.

And there's no limit on how many times they can be Power Weapons.

Anvildude wrote:And there's no limit on how many times they can be Power Weapons.

Why would there be a limit on how many times they can be a power weapon when there's no limit on how many times the burna can fire?

Hey, that's what Rottooth asked.

And what the heck are you doin' with Yarric as your Avatar, Ghaz?

You didn't answer my question, plus that's not Yarrick as my avatar.

I've always read when a rule said 'in an assault' meant the turn that that unit initiated an assault (e.g. charge). Is this wrong? Does in an assault mean any attacks made in close combat?

mazik765 wrote:I've always read when a rule said 'in an assault' meant the turn that that unit initiated an assault (e.g. charge). Is this wrong? Does in an assault mean any attacks made in close combat?

Unless specified otherwise, it doesn't matter who's player turn it is. An assault phase is an assault phase.

Nungunz wrote:

mazik765 wrote:I've always read when a rule said 'in an assault' meant the turn that that unit initiated an assault (e.g. charge). Is this wrong? Does in an assault mean any attacks made in close combat?

Unless specified otherwise, it doesn't matter who's player turn it is. An assault phase is an assault phase.

Isn't an assault a separate term than an assault phase though unless specified.

No, that is assaultING - the act of making an assault *move*

An assault is the state of being in combat, regardless of it being inititated by you or the opponent

Anvildude wrote:And there's no limit on how many times they can be Power Weapons.

Thought so. Thanks.

And it'll usually be 'on the charge' when it's only for a single phase, such as Furious Charge. Not always, but usually.