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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 22:47:23
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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We recently played a game where there was some confusion on how disembarking, running, and assaulting all work together. Basically we originally thought that when disembarking out of a Transport (lets presume for this situation it is not open-topped) that all you could do is shoot, pending the vehicle had moved and as such you had to sacrifice the movement phase of the units inside. Well basically what was questioned was whether or not those units are allowed to run in in that shooting phase, so Transport moves 6", units get out and choose to sprint/run in their shooting phase. Is this legitimate? If this is a legitimate coarse of action, how does that work wit things like Fleet of Foot and WAGH, would that allow you to than assault since you just ran?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/23 22:47:56
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 22:52:31
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Lieutenant General
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Fleet allows you to assault after running. It has no effect on any other situations which may disallow you from assaulting.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 22:53:28
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Ghaz wrote:Fleet allows you to assault after running. It has no effect on any other situations which may disallow you from assaulting.
So you cannot assault is what you are saying? As well, are you even allowed to run during that shooting phase as described above?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 22:56:04
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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The Hive Mind
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dabupp wrote:Ghaz wrote:Fleet allows you to assault after running. It has no effect on any other situations which may disallow you from assaulting.
So you cannot assault is what you are saying? As well, are you even allowed to run during that shooting phase as described above?
You can run - there's nothing preventing that.
But you can't assault out of a closed topped vehicle that doesn't have a special rule (Land Raider for example) if it moved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 22:56:38
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Raging Ravener
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dabupp wrote:Ghaz wrote:Fleet allows you to assault after running. It has no effect on any other situations which may disallow you from assaulting.
So you cannot assault is what you are saying? As well, are you even allowed to run during that shooting phase as described above?
You can run.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 22:59:17
Subject: Re:Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Thank you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/23 23:01:06
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Lieutenant General
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Again, all Fleet does is remove the restriction of not being able to assault after running. It has no effect on any other restrictions which may prevent you from assaulting.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 04:24:56
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Here is a more comprehensive answer to your question: if the unit disembarks from a transport vehicle that moved, they may Run in the Shooting Phase. If it is classified as an Assault Vehicle, then the unit may assault after disembarking. If the unit has Fleet, then it may Run and then Assault.
Does this make things clear?
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:17:10
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Ghenghis Jon wrote:Here is a more comprehensive answer to your question: if the unit disembarks from a transport vehicle that moved, they may Run in the Shooting Phase. If it is classified as an Assault Vehicle, then the unit may assault after disembarking. If the unit has Fleet, then it may Run and then Assault.
Does this make things clear?
Or if the vehicle is open-topped.........................
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:25:24
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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don_mondo wrote:Or if the vehicle is open-topped.........................
Yes. As far as I know, all open-topped vehicles are assault vehicles.
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I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 19:27:41
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ghenghis Jon wrote:don_mondo wrote:Or if the vehicle is open-topped.........................
What is special about Open topped vehicles? Aren't they Assault Vehicles?
They have the exact same function as Assault Vehicles (letting transported troops assault after disembarking even if the vehicle moves), but they aren't actually Assault Vehicles.
It doesn't make any difference at all, at the moment. But, if a model had a rule that removed Assault Vehicle, they couldn't touch Open-Topped vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/24 20:02:24
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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General rule
Disembark (in movement phase)=regular shooting phase (can run)=/=assault in assault phase
Assualt vehicle/open topped
Disembark (in movement phase)=regular shooting phase (can run)=assault in assault phase (only if didn't run or has fleet)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/02/25 17:47:54
Subject: Assaulting out of a Vehicle
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Also. Remember that even a single pivoting will make your troop no longer be able to move.
And, if you pivot, disembark, you can no longer move the vehicle.
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