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I started on WH40K last year, and I've been slowly building up an Ork army from the Black Reach set.
However, I have a question regarding the 1 Nob you can take in a Boyz mob - can that Nob take any of the wargear listed in the Nobz entry under Elites, even if it's not explicitly listed in the Nob section of the Boyz Mob entry?
Bottom line: I'd like to attach a Nob to one of my Boy Mobz with a twin-linked shoota, but I'm not sure if it's allowed.

no, its not. if its not in the entry its not allowable.

Damn, thanks. I was looking forward to having a shooty Nob in the rear.

Far, far better to have a nob with a powerklaw in the front.

Yeah, he would have had a powerklaw as well, but it's looking like he'll be more effective if he's on the front lines of an assault.


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I assume that in the same way, a Nob in a Boyz Mob may not take a Waaagh! Banner? +1WS to a mob would be handy.

I give all my Boyz Mob Nobz the first Big Shoota allowed in the Mob and a Power Klaw.

No, you cannot give him the waaagh banner, as it isnt an option in the Nob entry for the troops choice "Boyz".

You CAN give him a big shoota / rocket, as any member of the boyz unit can be assigned one

nosferatu1001 wrote:No, you cannot give him the waaagh banner, as it isnt an option in the Nob entry for the troops choice "Boyz".

You CAN give him a big shoota / rocket, as any member of the boyz unit can be assigned one

Ah, I didn't know that. Thanks a lot for help.


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Actually, a question about the Power Klaw - Furious Charge gives +1 to Initiative and Strength in CC, but a Power Klaw always delivers attacks at an Initiative of 1. What's the initiative if both apply (i.e. for a Warboss or Nob)?

As the rules for the power klaw state, nothing can increase the initiative if you're using the klaw.

As Ghaz said, the rules for the klaw clearly state that it strikes at I1 regardless of other modifiers. You do get to add the +1 Strength on the charge, though, so hit at S9.

Thanks a lot for clearing that up, I get it now.


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Just to confirm, that does mean a Warboss with a Power Klaw attacks with S12 in CC?
I'd like to be absolutely sure.

A PK doubles the model's strength. A regular Nob is S4, so their regular PK attack is at S8. The +1Furious Charge bonus is only added after the doubling of the model's strength, so a regular Nob will assault at S9. For a S5 Warboss, his strength would be doubled to 10. Since no Characteristic except Armour Value can be above 10, the Furious Charge Bonus does not add. Sorry, S10 only for a Warboss, but it is the best possible in the game!

NimbleJack3 wrote:Thanks a lot for clearing that up, I get it now.


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Just to confirm, that does mean a Warboss with a Power Klaw attacks with S12 in CC?
I'd like to be absolutely sure.

No, as BODMAS applies, and ALL stats (except AV) are capped at 10, apart from Bonus Attacks which can go above 10

So you do Sx2 ,then add one for FC. For a Nob this is S8+1, for a warboss this is S10, no +1 as you cannot go above 10

The exception to this is the GK power hammerhand, which explicitly adds +1S *before* multiplying