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Not every shadow, but any shadow

The special rule for Psychic Barrage states that all psykers in the unit are considered a single psyker, Psykers use their own leadership value, not of any attached characters, measurements and LOS can be taken from any psyker and all psykers in the unit suffer perils of the warp.

My question is if an Inquisitor (psyker upgrade) or Librarian is attached are they considered a psyker as well thus exposing them to the good and bad effects even though neither can cast the power being used?

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They are a Psyker, not a psyker
   
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Not every shadow, but any shadow

Sorry what does that mean ?

 
   
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Magpie wrote:Sorry what does that mean ?


The 'psykers' in the henchman unit are sadly named 'psyker' which is also the term used to describe all psychic individuals in 40k ('psyker').

Ergo, it is impossible to write rules for henchmen psykers without also writing rules that apply to every single psyker.

The only way the henchmen psyker rules make any kind of logical sense is if they are written under the presumption that they are referring only to henchmen psykers, as opposed to all psykers in general.


As to why they just didn't name them 'Hechmen Psykers' or 'Sanctioned Pyskers' or anything besides just 'Psyker' I will never understand.



If you want to try to play it 'RAW' (as best you could), then yes, any other psyker model joining the unit could be used to draw line of sight from for Psychic Barrage. But since all psykers in the unit count as a single psyker that would also mean the use of a psychic barrage would count as the joined psyker having used a power.

Really, its all hogwash that makes no sense if you try to read it that way.

Just read the rule as applying only to henchmen psykers and your life will be much easier.



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Not every shadow, but any shadow

Thanks for that Yak.

I have to say that 40k is very quickly becoming a bit of a minefield with most questions resulting in large amounts of people insisting that the rules clearly show two diametrically opposite points of view.

There is both good and bad associated with the notion of psyker and Psyker and for sure it isn't clear if a distinction is made. I can read the rule perfectly sensibly from either perspective.

The way I think the rule is intended to work is that the rule only applies to the Henchman Psyker. Which is good as it means a libby or Inquisitor attached is not going to be damaged if the psykers stuff it up.

But you could also look at it as being any psyker, I mean with all this communal psychic energy floating about it makes sense for it to effect another psyker in the same unit. It also makes sense to funnel that energy through another psyker, even if they can't actually cast the power. I mean they can still point out a target the other guys can't see. This would be handy as the Libby or Inquisitor could be in Terminator armour and stand where they can see while the "shooter" psykers are under cover/out of sight.


 
   
 
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