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If say a Predator has POTMS and is Crew Shaken, can it still fire one weapon after moving at cruising speed?

The BT FAQ says that I can fire after cruising speed or crew shaken results, but does not specifically disallow it for both results. However I think it's implied that it cannot be done. But both cruising speed and crew shaken just disallow firing and POTMS allows +1 extra weapon regardless of the result.

Is there something I missed? What do you guys think?

Yes. It can fire one more weapon that is normally allowed. When shaken you cannot fire any weapons.

The exception is you cannot shoot with PotMS if you have used Smoke, that annoyance was fixed through FAQ

Wasn't that for Space Marines only. I don't think BT are bound by that...

Well, you coudl try arguing that it doesnt apply, but you're unlikely to get very far.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Well, you coudl try arguing that it doesnt apply, but you're unlikely to get very far.

... Why not? BT have their own codex. Anything in the SM codex and FAQ would be irrelevant.

Mike Zulu wrote:... Why not? BT have their own codex. Anything in the SM codex and FAQ would be irrelevant.

If we were playing a game and you were to tell me that your Black Templars were NOT Space Marines, then I would say you should be using the Chaos Marine Codex, you dirty Renegade!

If the army being used has a seperate codex and the rule is not FAQed in that codex, then that rule does not apply to your army. So in otherwords if its not in your rulebook or faq, and the description says you can do it, then you may do it. Space Marine Codex does not have anything to do with DA, BT, BA, GK, or SW...as each has their own codex AND faq sheet.

Mike Zulu wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:Well, you coudl try arguing that it doesnt apply, but you're unlikely to get very far.

... Why not? BT have their own codex. Anything in the SM codex and FAQ would be irrelevant.

WRong. It is a general answer about the "Power of the mchine spirit" ability and its interaction with the "Smoke Launcher" wargear. It applies to ANY army that has this combination.

A generic question about popping smoke in the Scout moves part of deployment is found in the BA FAQ, but it applies equally to possessed in a rhino who rol up "scout" as an option.

Kal-El wrote:If the army being used has a seperate codex and the rule is not FAQed in that codex, then that rule does not apply to your army. So in otherwords if its not in your rulebook or faq, and the description says you can do it, then you may do it. Space Marine Codex does not have anything to do with DA, BT, BA, GK, or SW...as each has their own codex AND faq sheet.

Nice try, but GW doesnt work that way. A critical ruling on how skimmers worked in the 4th edition ruleset was found ONLY in the Eldar FAQ, but applied to all skimmers equally.

If it is applied then it will specifically say it is applied across the board IMO. Each coded is treated differently. The faqs are as well unless they combine ALL the faqs into 1. If it's not FAQ for the army then it's legal IMO. You can do it how you like. It I would not argue the guy since his codex an FAQ do not say otherwise

Besides, they put all of those 'generic' questions in each and every Marine FAQ to stop ass-hats from claiming it doesn't apply to them. From the BT FAQ:

Q. Can a vehicle with the ʻPower of the Machine Spiritʼ fire
a weapon on the turn the vehicle uses Smoke Launchers?
(p29)
A. No.

Satisfied?

Mike Zulu wrote:Is there something I missed? What do you guys think?

Yeah, it's at the top of the left column on page 3 of the BT FAQ.