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Good morning all,
I posted this question to my blog today, http://fourhorsemen40k.blogspot.com/, and wanted to get some input here as well. In what circumstances do you think friendly ribbing during a game can get to be too much? And do you have any great examples to share?

Thanks!

Hello Throatpunch. Ive played only a few games. I mostly paint and have no one to play with but i have experienced this too many times. A good ribbing and some trash talk is simply part of competitive things. It goes too far when it gets personl ( you have s**ty rolls cuz your too fat). Saying "you suck" because you just got stomped is cool. Im 6ft 250lbs. its not fat. But when trash talk goes too far i almost feel bullied. But i guess it depends on how well the players know eachother and what they can get away with. I hope this helps.

Trash talk, as long as the guy's not being a dick, is ok.

Generally you can tell the guy who's trashtalking for fun ('them's fightin' words' ) and expects it in return from the a-hole who thinks that insulting you will throw your game.

For me: Trash talk my army, feel free. It feels great when i then kick your tail

Insult me personally and i'll dreadsock you.

Hump my leg while muttering 'i'm totally raping you, man! ' when you get a good roll (actually happened) and i'll have you arrested for indecent behaviour (that happened too )

Trashtalking is all fun and games until somebody kills themselves with one of their own models (usually by ingesting a dreadnaught). Then they're just upping the ante.

Good old fashion ribbing isnt bad, "jeze your dice must hate you" or "please put that land raider there" stuff like that is fine but if they insult you personally or just become down right rude for me thats a better reason to love kicking their teeth in then trash talk them after the game. yes it sounds awful but its true, revenge is sweet.

Ascalam wrote:Hump my leg while muttering 'i'm totally raping you, man! ' when you get a good roll (actually happened) and i'll have you arrested for indecent behaviour (that happened too )

How many times do I have to apologise?

I mean, I was getting good rolls and was a bit down on my luck with women and your leg was just... there...

I'm a guy, I have needs and urges, i'm sure you can appreciate that.

On topic, it gets OTT when personal insults are thrown around that aren't taken in good faith. If I aint smiling after that remark, you can bet your life-savings that I didn't think it was funny, and i'll let you double that bet if you can guess whether you should keep on doing it or not.

Heh

It's all good, man

Just one of those...misunderstandings

I'm sure the knees will heal in time

Smack talk is only too much if it is out of character. If you are an Ork general, you have every right to call your opponents "a puny little runt that couldn't dakka their way out of a wet paper squig-holder."

I hate it! I am there to have fun! Not be insulted to my face.

I had a guy "hand of god" me once because I told him that he needed to think about the game obj and not killing my one hq unit.


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For thos that dont know the "hand of god" move is when you place ur hands under the table edge and proceed to flip it over, models with it.

We usually talk so badly about ourselves and our own armies that there's nothing else left for anyone else to trashtalk about.

/shrug

DK wrote:I had a guy "hand of god" me once because I told him that he needed to think about the game obj and not killing my one hq unit.


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For thos that dont know the "hand of god" move is when you place ur hands under the table edge and proceed to flip it over, models with it.

I would have "fist of god"ed him if he did that to my models.

(Thats where you rapidly move your fist shaped hand towards their face until there is contact and usually blood)

I can't think of a situation where this has occurred. Sometimes people may get a little boisterous, but they may be a little socially inept but are trying so give them extra room.

It helps that I probably haven't played anyone under 30 in 2 years.

its all just showmanship, well definitely for those under 30 years old. ive seen some truly cringeworthy examples of young-uns getting truly excited about "bringing the pain" to the lttle figs.

I always reply with "you might bring the pain", "i bring the paint"

There's also situational issues regarding trash talking. I would be far more acceptimg of trash talk from friends than someone i just met at the gamestore. I'd have a much higher tolerance for it from someone I know. I would find it more than a little rude if someone started trash talking me personally and we have just met. Also there's an age thing, I'm an older gamer so the thought of trash talking a kid learning the game would be unacceptable to me, especiallty like a young tween. There's just something not right about an older married guy with kids trash talking someone who could be my son.

I think a safe distinction is that you cross the line when your trash talk is directed at the player and not the game so for example "your dice are horrible right now" vs. "keep rolling those 1's fatty."

I only play with close friends. Smack talk is usually limited to light ribbing. Usually fluff points or something silly.

"Kharn's about to open up a can of whoop-ass on those terminators!" *Promptly rolls 3x 1's to start the assault*

"Sure, right after he kills three of his own men, dumbass!"

"They were slowing him down..."

I just can't believe how serious and mean some people get over a game. I don't really have anybody that bad around home.

DK wrote:I had a guy "hand of god" me once because I told him that he needed to think about the game obj and not killing my one hq unit.


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For thos that dont know the "hand of god" move is when you place ur hands under the table edge and proceed to flip it over, models with it.

Wow, I can't imagine that. I guess you can't shoot someone over plastic crack, but I'd be tempted to perform the "hand job of god". The "hand job of god" (Also known as the "Lanchaster ball lock") is when you grab someone by the balls and twist until the noise stops. The noise always starts with the twisting.

Insurgency Walker wrote:

DK wrote:I had a guy "hand of god" me once because I told him that he needed to think about the game obj and not killing my one hq unit.


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For thos that dont know the "hand of god" move is when you place ur hands under the table edge and proceed to flip it over, models with it.

Wow, I can't imagine that. I guess you can't shoot someone over plastic crack, but I'd be tempted to perform the "hand job of god". The "hand job of god" (Also known as the "Lanchaster ball lock") is when you grab someone by the balls and twist until the noise stops. The noise always starts with the twisting.

I think you and the people you know should stick with the "Lanchester ball lock", because "Handjob of" anything will always mean handjob first.














Unless you're a hottie (woman in my case).

Well once I watched in horror an avalanche of models hit the floor I grabed my chair and proceded to walked around the table, in short he took off running and never saw him again (this was at a tournament in Atlanta GA) so I took his models...a month passed and the store never called saying he wanted them back so I sold them to fix mine that he had broke.

Thanks for the replies everyone!

Any kind of trash talk is good for me on two conditions:

1: It actually is good natured.

2: You can take it as well as you give it.

My friend is a nightmare when your playing a game he doesnt seem to know when to shut the f*** up. Normally when i play a game with someone theres some rib taking but nothing serious yet my friend just goes on and on. If he's winning he carries on taking the p*** ut of his opponent and his army to make the game unbearable. If hes losing he just starts saying how ctap his army is and gives up making his opponent feel like it was a wasted evening and if he's watching he takes the p*** out of both and saying how he would have done things. Now a couple of years ago him and me were in a doubles tournament and in all the games he went stroppy thinking we couldnt win and walled off in the middle of every game we played. After all this and me taking over and trying to cover for him he blamed ME for us losing. Well would that seem to me that i am a very calm and tolerant person or just thick and stubborn

DK wrote:I had a guy "hand of god" me once because I told him that he needed to think about the game obj and not killing my one hq unit.


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For thos that dont know the "hand of god" move is when you place ur hands under the table edge and proceed to flip it over, models with it.

I'd "hand of god" his face, and by "hand of god", I mean clenching my hand into a fist like manner and throwing it hastily towards his face.

Sorry , I wouldn't handle that form a tantrum well.

Emerett wrote:

DK wrote:I had a guy "hand of god" me once because I told him that he needed to think about the game obj and not killing my one hq unit.


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For thos that dont know the "hand of god" move is when you place ur hands under the table edge and proceed to flip it over, models with it.

I would have "fist of god"ed him if he did that to my models.

(Thats where you rapidly move your fist shaped hand towards their face until there is contact and usually blood)

Somebody beat me to it.. but yes... that is what would happen

As long as it's coming from both sides it's okay. One sided I'm not too happy about it. Very different depending on the opponent.

Stravo wrote:There's also situational issues regarding trash talking. I would be far more acceptimg of trash talk from friends than someone i just met at the gamestore. I'd have a much higher tolerance for it from someone I know. I would find it more than a little rude if someone started trash talking me personally and we have just met. Also there's an age thing, I'm an older gamer so the thought of trash talking a kid learning the game would be unacceptable to me, especiallty like a young tween. There's just something not right about an older married guy with kids trash talking someone who could be my son.

I think a safe distinction is that you cross the line when your trash talk is directed at the player and not the game so for example "your dice are horrible right now" vs. "keep rolling those 1's fatty."

This about covers my position. I tend to err on the side of being really polite when I play completely new players. Someone I have a history with and all bets are off, but the smack is about the game not about the players. Insulting someone because they are rolling poorly is a great way to push away a future opponent on the table and do that enough times and you have no one to play against. As long as the players are both smiling it is all good. If one is laughing and the other is looking angry it is a problem because one of the two isn't seeing the humor in the situation.

All comes down to being an actual human being to people. Some folks have a hard time with that one, though.

Skriker

Just so long as it doesn't start resembling an Xbox LIVE game its fine.

I don't smack-talk my opponent so much as my dice, or the Nob who just whiffed all three of his powerklaw to-wound rolls. (seriously, how hard is it to roll a 2 or more?!)

marauder6272 wrote:I don't smack-talk my opponent so much as my dice, or the Nob who just whiffed all three of his powerklaw to-wound rolls. (seriously, how hard is it to roll a 2 or more?!)

Apparently it is difficult for you. Don't worry I have a friend who plays Tau and cannot seem to roll more than a 1 or 2 on the penetration table with his rail guns, and since I pretty much play chaos and like to daemon possess things that generally means turn after turn my daemon engines face *at least* 3 rail gun shots that often hit, but never affect them at all. I know one of these days his rolling is going to catch up and my entire army will be dead in 3 turns, but it is amusing while it lasts.

Skriker

It gets to be too much when someone is offended.

It's that simple.