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Nothing truly spectacular here...something I just wanted to try out:

H.Q.

Thunderwolf Lord
2x Wolf Claw, Runic Armor, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Belt of Russ, Saga of the Bear -275

Thunderwolf Lord
Wolf Claw, Storm Shield, Runic Armor, Wolf Tooth Necklace, Wolf Tail Talisman, Saga of Majesty -245

Rune Priest
Chooser, Lightning, Hurricane -110

Elites

Wolf Guard 3x
3x Combi-melta/Power Fist -129

Wolf Scouts 5x
Melta, Melta Bombs -110

Troops

Grey Hunters 7x
Melta, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Rhino -170

Grey Hunters 7x
Melta, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Rhino -170

Grey Hunters 7x
Melta, Mark of the Wulfen, Wolf Standard, Rhino -170

Fast Attack

Thunderwolves 3x
Storm Shield/Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Naked -240

Heavy Support

Long Fangs 5x
4x Missile Launchers -115

Long Fangs 5x
4x Missile Launchers -115

Total: 1849

I'm thinking of bumping up my own WGBL to a Wolf Lord just for Saga of the Majesty. That thing is way too necessary.

Anyways, lot of concentrated power, but you can always peel off your Lords at the last second. Running them solo just seems a bad idea (even with cover/invulnerable saves). The list is already running as tight as it can so there's not a lot, if anything, you could even change.

Yeah, the 5 man unit tends to march across the field delivering the lords to do their nastiness.

In a set up like this, Majesty is a must. Can't tell you the number of times I've rolled an 11 on Leadership at 6" from the Board Edge only to breathe a sigh of relief thanks to Majesty.

I recently started looking into using Iron Priests on Thunderwolves and have been pleasantly surprised. Tempted to try this list and the other option without scouts and replacing them and the Thunderwolves for 2 Iron Priests with Cyberwolves on Thunderwolves. They put out 4 S/10, 1S/8, and 16 S/4 attacks on the charge. Not to mention they can tote Wolf Tooth Necklaces and Talismans themselves, they're kind of like baby Wolf Guard Battle Leaders.

Looks like a good time. Do you really need the dual wolf claws and the WTN on the first lord though? 3+ and full rerolls is pretty hardcore.

There's no such thing as overkill in my dictionary

Hitting with the 3+ maximizes damage for those moments when I have to dance with a nasty animal such as a Trygon or Mephiston situation...3+ and then re-rolling to wound, tell me you wouldn't like that.

I would almost consider running Logan in place of you WL... he might give you more bang for your buck plus another troop choice if you plan to play objective based games... also you might need more anti tank in this list at 1850 you will run into alot of it. I play CSM and CD alot and that is usually my problem is bringing more "can openers" Maybe dropping ML and adding LC or two might be worth it

Where's Logan give him another Troop? Those WG are getting parsed out to the GH.

AT? He has Living Lightning, 3 Combi Meltas, 3 Meltas, 8 MLs and a S10 TH. It's not the shootiest list ever, but it can open cans.

It's all good pretre, he probably misread the list.

@cj

Logan isn't going to do much for a list in this regard for several reasons:

1) He doesn't really have anywhere to go
2) Not enough Wolf Guard to make him worth it (there's only 1 unit)
3) He doesn't really help Thunderwolves out except for his 1 turn high king stuff which...yeah, I'd rather have Ragnar around if I wanted something like that.

As for anti-tank, I have always been a fair proponent of Lascannons in Long Fangs; however, in this regard, I'm leaving my adult lances at home. I need more volume for not only armor; but also, for Monstrous Creatures and bigger units that I don't want to take on head on (i.e. Nob Bikers, Paladins).

Also, pretre makes a fair point with regard to the Thunderwolves being fair can openers as well. Nothing like popping that Storm Raven filled with DCA and them disappearing because they have nowhere to go

List looks like a big pile of fun. I think I may try it out.

Unholy_Martyr wrote: Nothing like popping that Storm Raven filled with DCA and them disappearing because they have nowhere to go

What do you mean nowhere to go? Like surrounded by troops on all sides?

Surround the base of a Stormraven with your Thunderwolves and technically the unit inside would be destroyed as everything is resolved from the base...that's at least how I see it.

Unholy_Martyr wrote:Surround the base of a Stormraven with your Thunderwolves and technically the unit inside would be destroyed as everything is resolved from the base...that's at least how I see it.

Unless you get an explodes result

Well there in lies the question because if you get an explodes result, can you fit 12 models within the oval while maintaining 1" away...

Probably yes, but almost certainly not 12 + a dreadnought.

I'll try that out tonight...and that is a definite on the Dreadnought not fitting...

As for trying out Iron Priests instead of the Thunderwolves, if anyone is curious, they should give it a shot. Played a game against 'Nids last night and those Bad Boys were slaying MC's left and right.

Unholy_Martyr wrote:I'll try that out tonight...and that is a definite on the Dreadnought not fitting...

As for trying out Iron Priests instead of the Thunderwolves, if anyone is curious, they should give it a shot. Played a game against 'Nids last night and those Bad Boys were slaying MC's left and right.

Yeah, I've been toying with that idea for some time...once I get my boxes and boxes of thunderwolves I'll probably give it a go.

The synergy between them and Wolf Lords is outstanding. With the 4 Cyberwolves being Toughness 5, it makes the whole unit toughness 5 and Wound Allocation allows you to not worry too much about making saves.

I was running 2 Lords and 2 Iron Priests, each making baby Death Stars and it allowed them to move either in concert or separate to maul units easily turn after turn. Splitting them up allowed them to assault larger units to keep them locked in so as to avoid shooting (he had a pod with 12 Devourer Gaunts that landed right next to them; however, they never got to shoot as I was locked in the turn they arrived and assaulted the turn after)

Unholy_Martyr wrote:Well there in lies the question because if you get an explodes result, can you fit 12 models within the oval while maintaining 1" away...

Explodes says the vehicle is removed and replaced with an area of difficult ground. So you place a difficult crater the size of the hull and fit them in there.

Ah, good read! I guess I missed that part.

Glad I didn't put it in YMDC.

Unholy_Martyr wrote:Ah, good read! I guess I missed that part.

Glad I didn't put it in YMDC.

The real problem is... Who carries a storm raven sized crater with them to games?

In all seriousness, I know there's a company that laser cuts templates to replace your vehicles with and they do, but still...

yea, Iron Priests can be nice setup like that. Its about the only real use for them. And 165 points isn't bad. I tend to be tight on points as it is though so I haven't been able to fit one in usually. Now that the plastic kits are out I may pick up another kit to do a proper conversion though...

Instead of 2 wolf claws on one wolf lord maybe go frost axe with belt of russ - he will get an extra attack for his bolt pistol for 7 attacks on the charge (4 base, 1TWM, 1 extra cc weapon, 1 charge) and save 15 points as well as having strength 6 for killing monstrous creatures and vehicles. If you want to go realy crazy as a squad reaper swap bear for warrior born and keep him away from strength 10 critters.

Against all toughness except 7, iirc, WC is superior to FB.

Petre has it, the math hammer proves that excecpt for T7, the wolf claw thanks to it's re-roll outstrips the frost blade. +1 S is not as good as a re-roll in fact most bonuses are less good then a re-roll.

Now when it comes to a wolf lord with a storm sheild the claw is always the choice as it offers the best statistical kill and survival rates.
With a wolf lord equiped with a belt of russ the choice comes down to what you have to spend. A frost blade and pistol outshines a claw and a pistol but 2 claws is the best. If you have the 15 points needed then take the upgrade and arm yourself with 2 claws.
In general I think that the wolf claw + storm sheild is the best choice, it leaves you with the best stats for taking hits and giving them out. I find that on average it holds the best chance for getting your wolf lord into and out of combat with the limited amount of damge.



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pretre wrote:
In all seriousness, I know there's a company that laser cuts templates to replace your vehicles with and they do, but still...

What we do in our group is just put down a few dice to mark out where the vehicle was for a quick and easy approach. What you can do if you are really clever is bring a pad and a pen and ask your opponent to trace out the outline of his vehicle when it gets nailed for the purpose of difficult terrain.

I saw the templates for the vehicles but there's 2 problems with those bad boys:

1) A little pricey

2) They're rigid

I cannot count the number of times a vehicle has been destroyed in the most precarious of places on a table and those markers would make more of a mess than putting dice down.

@all

I have considered running another Wolf Claw Storm Shield lord instead of the 2 claw Lord; however, I'm leaning towards Frost Blade/Storm Shield due to flavor (I know, coming from someone who has the rest of the list as cookie cutter people will mutter under their breath). We'll see how it pans out.