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In the scout squad entry in Codex: Space Marines, it says the entire squad may take camo cloaks for +3 points per model. Then, it says that Telion can be bought as an upgrade for 50 points. My question is, can Telion take a camo cloak for +3 points? If not, can everyone in the squad take Telion and let everyone else have camo cloaks? Finally, it says Telion is bought as a replacement for a scout sergeant. It says the scout sergeant can take a locator beacon and melta bombs. Can Telion, by the logic that he is the squad's sergeant, take melta bombs and a locater beacon?

I don't think telion can take any extra wargear. On the cammo cloaks if you have telion you don't need them. He has the stealth special rule and gives it to his squad via the FAQ's.

Stealth and Camo stack, I believe. Yes, Telion gets camo cloaks; the entire squad does, and the sergeant is replaced before the option for camo cloaks comes up.

As for giving Telion extra wargear, the answer is no, as nowhere in his profile does it allow you to do that. Same as, for example, giving Vulkan Terminator Armour or something like that.

Stealth and Cammo cloaks do not stack. Cammo cloaks give you stealth.
As well Unique Charachters cannot be upgraded...so if you did buy cammo cloaks for the squad you wind up buying 10 and then tellion doesnt have one...except he has stealth anyway so it really dost not matter.

Telion has stealth anyways? Ok cool nevermind. Thank you

What is this doind in proposed rules ?

This should have been in YMDC...

I agree that Unique characters cannot take upgrades, but Telion is not actually Unique. (Shocker, I know. I didn't believe it at first.) The Scouts entry keeps you from having more than one of him by stating that "One scout unit" may upgrad to Telion. (Emphasis mine.) I don't particularly think he can take the camo cloak, though. First off, it would only give him a rule he already has. But as to whether or not he could take the other sergeant upgrades, I don't think so, but I don't really have a convincing reason in my pocket. Because he has a different name, maybe?

Erm, I'd suggest rereading the entry for SCs, where any named character is unique....

Huh, I didn't catch that the first time through. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am curious: why do they put a bullet by the other Space Marine characters telling you that they are Unique, but not Telion?

By unique do you mean an Independent character? Telion isn't an independent character because he is the replacement Sgt for one scout squad. As an independent character he'd be allowed to leave/join squads, and I think he's just supposed to lead scouts. As his stats are seperate from the scouts in the codex I believe his wargear is set and cannot be upgraded, though this isn't really confirmed anywhere.

The Camo Cloak says "The squad may...", is Telion part of the squad? Yes. Page 49 of the BRB, only limits you to one of each named character. Did I miss the "no upgrades" part? Sort of moot in this case, as the squad gets to use Telion's Stealth anyway.

Homer

Means that Telion is much cheaper than you might think, since you're getting, in a 10-man squad, 30 points of camo cloaks free, making Telion a mere 20 points

Joey wrote:Means that Telion is much cheaper than you might think, since you're getting, in a 10-man squad, 30 points of camo cloaks free, making Telion a mere 20 points

If I took Tellion in a 10-man squad and combat squad them do both units still get stealth or just the unit with Tellion?

Just the unit with Telion.

beigeknight wrote:

Joey wrote:Means that Telion is much cheaper than you might think, since you're getting, in a 10-man squad, 30 points of camo cloaks free, making Telion a mere 20 points

If I took Tellion in a 10-man squad and combat squad them do both units still get stealth or just the unit with Tellion?

Just the unit with Tellion.

Technically, the squad doesn't get stealth. But, a single model with stealth will improve the cover saves for the entire squad. So, if Tellion dies, the squad no longer gets the cover save bonus.

UNique doesnt mean "IC". For example Mephiston is Unique and is not an IC.

Unique just means you only ever get to take one.

So can he take gear like teleport homer?

Yayzeus wrote:So can he take gear like teleport homer?

No. You don't have permission to add wargear to him (I don't think - away from my books atm)

Yayzeus wrote:So can he take gear like teleport homer?

Find where it says Tellion may take a teleport homer, and you have your answer.

The rules say what you *can* do

Heh, heh, heh, imagine that, tellion with a power fist.....

Yayzeus wrote:So can he take gear like teleport homer?

These days named characters almost always have no option to change the gear they come with. Much to my dismay sometimes, because if you could stick a jump pack on Corbulo I'd take him in a heartbeat, but I'm not paying those points just to have him baby sit my ML Devs.