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Hey everyone!
I've decided to pick up the wolves, mainly because I've been waiting for the TW models, and never really liked the 3rd party stuff.
But the new models have gotten me excited for some drunken games in the fang! Next round's on me brothers!
I really want this list to be based around smashing into my oponent as hard as I can with the TW squads, everything else is to support them. My main enimies are Nilla' marines, BA, GK, Guard, Eldar and 'nids, we don't really have too much net listing in terms of spam in our group.
This will be my first step into true PA, so let's see how we go.

Space Wolves army - 1250 pts
HQ
Thunderwolf Lord: SS, Frost Axe, Wolf tooth talisman, mount - 205
Rune priest: (need help on choosing powers here) - 100

Elites
3x Wolf guard: 2x combi melta, 2x PF, 1x combi plasma - 109

Troops
8x Grey Hunters: Plasma gun, Wolf Standard, Drop pod - 175 (melta/power fist guard and rune priest here)
8x Grey Hunters: Melta gun, Wold Standard, Drop pod - 170 (melta/power fist guard here)

Fast Attack
3x Thunderwolf Calvery: Thunder Hammer, SS, normal - 210
2x Thunderwolf Calvery: SS, Wolf Claw - 150 (Wolf lord goes here)

Heavy support
5x Long Fangs: 4 missile launchers - 130

Total 1249 pts
In case you hadn't noticed, I like drop pods and plasma, A LOT

Well, You've lost one Wolf Guard in the process somewhere.

"8x Grey Hunters: Plasma gun, Wolf Standard, Drop pod - 175 (melta/power fist guard and rune priest here) ". This one is wrong - it should include complimenting weapons, not a mix of assault and rapidfire. So its either melta hunters and melta guard, or plasma hunters and plasma guard. If You intend to drop hunters in pods, then You have too few of both. One pod will come down in the beginning and if it gets wiped out (which is quite possible), then You have only one troop choice left which will come down the Emperor knows when. And thus, one pack of hunters in Drop Pod and 4 Long Fangs with rockets will not keep oponent busy enough to let the TWC close in safely.
As for RP powers, I suggest either LL or Jaws as the shooting and one of non-shooting to complement his role. If he is droppod, might think about casting a cover save, while they are in the open.
The Wolf Lord needs meltabombs.

I don't think that a heavy TWC list could be effectively builded at 1250 pts honestly.

First of all consider to take a WGBL instead a Lord. WC/SS, if you don't want to give him TH/SS looks like the better combo instead the Frost Blade. At least math wisely.

If you want to suicide a little full-of-meltas unit with a Pod trying to destroy the AV14 Deathstar vehicle/major treat in your opponent's deployment zone consider:

- 3x Wolf guards - 3x Combi-meltas - Drop Pod. 104

Still a pricy solution for a 1250 pts list.

What TWC love the most is the long-range support fire. Something that will force your opponent to seriously consider target-priority problems and orders.
This will allow your TWC to rush ahead and eventually survive at the first counter-fire turn, at least for one of your teams,

But however I think that 3x TWC, even if greats as all us know, can't be considered the biggest treat ever and a simple turn of concentrated fire could serously deplet them.

the only viable solution I may consider, even if something actually really borderline, is a Lupin List.

IE:

HQ - WGBL - WC/SS - Runic Armor - TW Mounth - Necklace - Talisman - Meltabombs - 2x Fenrisian Wolves - Saga of the Warrior Born. 260
HQ - WGBL - WC/SS - Runic Armor - TW Mounth - Necklace - Talisman - Meltabombs - 2x Fenrisian Wolves - Saga of the Wolfkin. 240
FA - 4x TWC - TH/SS - SS - Meltabombs - naked. 295
FA - 4x TWC - TH/SS - SS - Meltabombs - naked. 295
TR - 10x Fenrisian Wolves. 80
TR - 10x Fenrisian Wolves. 80
Tot. 1250

Of course not a competitive build, infact nothing more than a for-fun list that is just respectfully following the FOC but than can actually win you games only if completely annihilating the enemy. Good luck ;D

As I already said, I don't really think that TWC are viable at 1250 pts.

Toban wrote: First of all consider to take a WGBL instead a Lord. WC/SS, if you don't want to give him TH/SS looks like the better combo instead the Frost Blade. At least math wisely.

Mathhammer is all for the wolf claw. Don't take a TH/SS unless you put saga of the bear on him, force weapons will ruin your day otherwise.

HQ - WGBL - WC/SS - Runic Armor - TW Mounth - Necklace - Talisman - Meltabombs - 2x Fenrisian Wolves - Saga of the Warrior Born. 260
HQ - WGBL - WC/SS - Runic Armor - TW Mounth - Necklace - Talisman - Meltabombs - 2x Fenrisian Wolves - Saga of the Wolfkin. 240
FA - 4x TWC - TH/SS - SS - Meltabombs - naked. 295
FA - 4x TWC - TH/SS - SS - Meltabombs - naked. 295
TR - 10x Fenrisian Wolves. 80
TR - 10x Fenrisian Wolves. 80
Tot. 1250

Firstly this is an illegal list. Only CANIS WOLFBORN can allow fenrisian wolves as troops. What you should do is similar to this but with a few tweeks.

Canis wolfborn -185
Wolf Lord- 245
Thunder wolf, Runic armour, wolf tooth necklace, wolf tail, saga of magesty, WC/SS

FA - 3x TWC - TH/SS - SS - naked. 240
FA - 3x TWC - TH/SS - SS - naked. 240
FA - 3x TWC - SS - bolter- naked. 180
TR - 10x Fenrisian Wolves. 80
TR - 10x Fenrisian Wolves. 80

This list give you all that you need. Use the wolves as a screen. Stick Canis either on the weak TWC or on the 2nd squad of 10 wolves, he either bolsters the power of the TWC or he strikes at the same time as 30 I5 attacks. Canis's saga of the wolfkin bumps the 2 units of wolves and makes them a much bigger threat on the board.
The reason I split out the wolves is that at 1250 everyone bar ork players will have a few small targets so they will be spread around quite a bit, the wolf lord can take a TWC unit and take on the hard hitters while the other two work on troops or support units.

The wolf lord has saga of magesty to allow him and any unit's to re-roll their leadership checks, since you'll have a small army failing these would be a massive problem.




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Also a wolf list doesn't need to hold objectives it just needs to contest them or wipe out the enemy. This list can do that.


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Now to the original post.

=I= White-Wolf wrote:
Space Wolves army - 1250 pts
HQ
Thunderwolf Lord: SS, Frost Axe, Wolf tooth talisman, mount - 205
Rune priest: (need help on choosing powers here) - 100

Elites
3x Wolf guard: 2x combi melta, 2x PF, 1x combi plasma - 109

Troops
8x Grey Hunters: Plasma gun, Wolf Standard, Drop pod - 175 (melta/power fist guard and rune priest here)
8x Grey Hunters: Melta gun, Wold Standard, Drop pod - 170 (melta/power fist guard here)

Fast Attack
3x Thunderwolf Calvery: Thunder Hammer, SS, normal - 210
2x Thunderwolf Calvery: SS, Wolf Claw - 150 (Wolf lord goes here)

Heavy support
5x Long Fangs: 4 missile launchers - 130

Total 1249 pts

I get that you like drop pods and plasma but what are you going to do with them? The troops are too weak to stand out on their own and survive a propper fight, you have 1 wg who will either be sitting on his own or stuck on the long fangs(btw check the points again).
Think clearly about what each squad will be doing and how they will work with the rest of the army. You need your troops to be protected by the rest of the army or working with it, not half waiting in reserve and the rest being shot to hell to ensure you can't hold objectives.

Make a choice with this list, either the army is 3 troops and uses wolf guard or it is 2 and doesn't. If it it 3 troops loose 3 TWC, that frees up your amry to make real use of the WG and to allow the rune priest to be protected from a stray shot. I would drop the drop pods myself as they need to be hitting down in large numbers to be effective while rhinos can allow a more flexible stratagy on the board. Your TWC can deal with the hard stuff and the long fangs can shoot up the rest.

If the army is 2 troops then just get rid of the rune priest and the WG, leave them in 2 rhinos with motw, wolf banner and 2 special weapons. They can unload where they are needed and shoot like hell and when they get charged the can unfurl the banner and use MOTW to kill as many men as possible. Your saved points can get you a few fenrisian wolves to act as a screen and to tie up squads in combat and you can either tool out the twc or get two full long fang squads of 6 men and 5 missile launchers each. That gives you 2 stong shooting units, 2 cc units with a cc hq and a pair of decent troops to hold the line.

Thank you for the advice! Knew I needed some good help
Well the list itself was going to be based on what I was going to buy, which from the warstore is: Battleforce, Drop pod, and 2 boxes of TWC, I have enough bits to convert the Scouts into LF, which is sort of where I was going, the DP is essentially given to me free I have around $250 to play around with, and I don't want to follow exactly the net lists, so what would you reccomend purchasing?

Is it dollars you're working in? I you were working in euros I could recommend ways to save 20% on list prices.

I wrote an article on how to build an army on the cheap and am waiting to have it published on a blog atm. The gist of it is that you can get an army together for 70% of what your GW basket says you should pay if you are clever about it using Ebay. If $47.03 is less then the gw list price in your area for TWC, then for that amount you can get, 4 boxes of thunderwolves and 2 boxes of fenrisian wolves. Plus that gets you free delivery & insurance with this website.
http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk

If you want to buy the list you had at the top, you could do it for about 210 but you'll have to go trawling for the missiles and melta guns on ebay.