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If I have a Veteran squad with 3x meltas in a Chimera, do I have to fire them both at the same time during the Shooting Phase? I know they can shoot at different targets, but can for example, the chimera shoots at a target, then I go to my Leman Russ to shoot then I come back to shoot the veterans in the Chimera.

Is this allowed? Some guy at my store says you have to do them together as they are the same unit.

Also, how do searchlights work, do you have to shoot to be able to searchlight?

Jereziah wrote:If I have a Veteran squad with 3x meltas in a Chimera, do I have to fire them both at the same time during the Shooting Phase? I know they can shoot at different targets, but can for example, the chimera shoots at a target, then I go to my Leman Russ to shoot then I come back to shoot the veterans in the Chimera.

Is this allowed? Some guy at my store says you have to do them together as they are the same unit.

Also, how do searchlights work, do you have to shoot to be able to searchlight?

If they were the same unit, they'd have to shoot at the same target. I'm pretty sure the FAQ points out that they can shoot at separate targets because they AREN'T the same unit, so they can also shoot at different times.

Searchlights are used after you acquire but before you fire. As you have to be able to fire to be allowed to acquire a target, you have to be able to fire to use searchlights.

Jereziah wrote:If I have a Veteran squad with 3x meltas in a Chimera, do I have to fire them both at the same time during the Shooting Phase? I know they can shoot at different targets, but can for example, the chimera shoots at a target, then I go to my Leman Russ to shoot then I come back to shoot the veterans in the Chimera.

Is this allowed? Some guy at my store says you have to do them together as they are the same unit.

They are 2 separate units, and can therefore fire at different times. If anybody tells you otherwise, (politely) ask them how the Chimera embarks upon itself as if it is part of the unit, it must embark with the rest of the unit.

Also, how do searchlights work, do you have to shoot to be able to searchlight?

Pick a target to shoot (this is the only way you are allowed to "choose a target" for searchlights contrary to what others might say.)
Roll for night fighting. If successful, the unit is lit up and anyone shooting at that unit does not need to roll for night-fighting.
If the roll fails, the searchlight does nothing.

Edit: Ninja'd for taking too long...

The only time you are allowed to target a unit is when you are shooting weapons at them.(Or Rules that specifically say to target a unit)
The searchlight does not allow you to target anything without using the night fighting rules to pick a target.

So you can not use a searchlight unless you are shooting.

"If a vehicle has a searchlight it must still use the night fighting rules to pick a target"
So we check Night fighting and it says: "After selecting a target, but before a unit fires..."

So you need to select a target, and you can not select a target if you are not capable of shooting.

Happyjew wrote:

Jereziah wrote: Some guy at my store says you have to do them together as they are the same unit.

They are 2 separate units, and can therefore fire at different times. If anybody tells you otherwise, (politely) ask them how the Chimera embarks upon itself as if it is part of the unit, it must embark with the rest of the unit.

At the same time ask what the use of a transport is since all models in a unit move at the speed of the slowest. Those Deldar raiders and Ork trukks sure are scary hurtling at you 6" every round.

The rules are perfectly clear, in the definition of units and most particularly in the section titled "Multiple Unit Choices", on page 92, that they are always separate units.

Happyjew wrote:They are 2 separate units, and can therefore fire at different times. If anybody tells you otherwise, (politely) ask them how the Chimera embarks upon itself as if it is part of the unit, it must embark with the rest of the unit.

Great... now I have *that image* in my mind!

Homer

Thanks for the help all!