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Do the street gangs of specific ethnicity found in the US of A associate to tyrants with the similar ethnicity outside the USA?

did the African tyrants get any financial support from or grants any supports to black gangs in L.A. and elsewhere in the State?

is there any records of Gangster Rappers speech for those vile tyrants?

and did the Kingpin Gaddhafi associates to any gangsters in the U.S. too?



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Some of the Islamic gangs pay homage to their overseas cousins--in words--but not with money or services so far as I know.
Otherwise, no.
By and large African Americans gangs don't care what happens in Africa anymore than any other type of American.

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Street gangs, not as far as i know.

Islamic and irish terrorists are well know to have/have had funding and support networks within organised crime in the US.

African tyrants? They mostly see anyone classed as an "African american" as american. That can mean any number of things, from hatred to being a route to selling drugs/conflict dimonds/oil etc etc, but that has nothing to do with race. It is an oddly american thing to worry about where your distant ancestors come from, and the avrage African probably sees them as no more African than i am.
   
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Gangs not as much, though latino gangs like MS 13 do have a support structure HQd in Central/South America.

Mafias yes, Irish and Italian mostly pay tributes back and have structures/support in the home countries.

 
   
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Shadowseer_Kim wrote:Gangs not as much, though latino gangs like MS 13 do have a support structure HQd in Central/South America.


That is becuase they are international gangs. The Yakuza and Triads also still have a lot of contact with their respective overseas peers.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_shabab

Gets quite a bit of funding from Somalis in America; doubtful if they could be classified as a 'gang' or anything though.
   
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Electro wrote:Street gangs, not as far as i know.

Islamic and irish terrorists are well know to have/have had funding and support networks within organised crime in the US.

African tyrants? They mostly see anyone classed as an "African american" as american. That can mean any number of things, from hatred to being a route to selling drugs/conflict dimonds/oil etc etc, but that has nothing to do with race. It is an oddly american thing to worry about where your distant ancestors come from, and the avrage African probably sees them as no more African than i am.


1. Did the U.S. really ban the oil exports of any of those african tyrants? (in another word. outlaw anyone that imports tyrant's oils) if you say that black gangs do help them smuggle those things.
2. Yep i think there's nothing to do with race but if the tyrant believes that the U.S. government hates them. they also see thoes black gangs in the US as a tool to weaken the american resolves.
3. under that scenario. the black gangsters are actually mercenaries. correct?
4. What do the gangster rappers think of tyrants elsewhere? if one of the song in that genre expresses the rapper's hatred towards the U.S. Government. (particularly the Police, Sherivry, FBI, CIA)
5. What will those gangsters do if one of the government bureau founds out that they works for african tyrants/warlords/terrorists?
6. Do you think that Russian gangs will become anything that erase the U.S. of A. out of the world map? if the CBS did a coverage on russian gangs in the US being extremely defiant to any law and order establishments.
7. Did Iran ever use any of those black gangs to conduct espionage/sabotage in the USA?



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American street gangs, like the Crips, have about as much connection to any African warlords as they do to the IRA. They aren't international organizations, and generally aren't trying to be. Occasionally gangs sell guns and things like that. but you'd be just as likely to see the Hell's Angels do that as you would the Crips. These gangs aren't race based organizations by design, like the Black Panthers or KKK, but by their geographic limitations, and they certainly aren't ethnically oriented, like the Italian Mafia. Africa is a continent of diverse nations and people, not a singular country that one just associates with.

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Lone Cat wrote:
1. Did the U.S. really ban the oil exports of any of those african tyrants? (in another word. outlaw anyone that imports tyrant's oils) if you say that black gangs do help them smuggle those things.
2. Yep i think there's nothing to do with race but if the tyrant believes that the U.S. government hates them. they also see thoes black gangs in the US as a tool to weaken the american resolves.
3. under that scenario. the black gangsters are actually mercenaries. correct?
4. What do the gangster rappers think of tyrants elsewhere? if one of the song in that genre expresses the rapper's hatred towards the U.S. Government. (particularly the Police, Sherivry, FBI, CIA)
5. What will those gangsters do if one of the government bureau founds out that they works for african tyrants/warlords/terrorists?
6. Do you think that Russian gangs will become anything that erase the U.S. of A. out of the world map? if the CBS did a coverage on russian gangs in the US being extremely defiant to any law and order establishments.
7. Did Iran ever use any of those black gangs to conduct espionage/sabotage in the USA?


Ok, point by point reply as far as i can...
1) Black gangs? I asume you mean the likes of the bloods and crips, who are not realy about race (thats more to do with iniequality in the US). yes, they are involved in smuggling, like any organised criminals/gangs. The extente depends on the gang/group. The types you seem to be talking about would be more interested in drugs. Oil is big, bulky stuff, but not beyond the power of the likes of the italian and russian mafia.
2) probably depends on what govenment your talking about. Someone like gadaffi has just as much chance as seeing them as a tool of the CIA to control the population as a tool for discent. I don't honestly think most of the African dictators take much interest beyond how they can help them with ranting about the evil west.
3) as they say, i'm not touching that with a 10 foot barge poll.
4) some people have shown support for gadaffi and the arab countrys, but that is more to do with a missplaced understanding of the arab and islamic world than any direct support. People who belive the retoric of these dictators more than direct support.
5) IF they did work for them, the much the same as the IRA supporters and people working for south american drug cartels i suppose.
6) not a clue
7) not a clue, but in espionage anything could be happen. More likely that it would be islamic groups, but who knows with iran. Is there endemic support for tyrants, dictators etc in street gangs? I doubt they even think about it.
   
 
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