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Hey guys, got a 2500 tournament in about a month and want to start to prepare my list. Any critiques welcomed and appreciated

Archmage lv4, book of ashur, jewel of dusk, ironcurse icon, high magic

Mage annulian crystal, silver wand, lore of light

Noble BSB, AoC, GW, guardian phoenix

Spearman*40 FC

Archers*12 musician

Archers*11 musician

Swordmasters*20 FC, dispel scroll

Swordmasters*20 FC, banner of sorcery

Bolt Thrower*3

Great Eagle*3


Plan so far is for archmage and BSB in the spearman, curse of arrow attraction something to make it go away with 3xRBT and 2 archers and maybe shem's. Mage to go in the 11man archer unit, SM's take a flank while the spearkblock guards or takes the other side, eagles to incercept/setup charges and combo combats.


I'm trying to viably think of every scenario or situation I could run into and have some tools (more than 1) to help me through it.

At the very least the units of SM's have to stay, but size is w/e, trying to guage good engagement sizes still.

Is there some comp to prevent you from taking that ridiculously bent arcane item that auto-wins with a magic phase?

My only two comments would be that you're running mages with no real protection to speak of, and that the sword master champion isn't a wizard, and so can't carry an arcane item. I'd drop something at Least on the archmage to get a general ward save of some kind, perhaps the 5+ from the BRB. I know most of the time you can count on Shield of Saphery going off, but you're not going to have a ton of big threat spells unless you roll up fury of khaine, flames of the pheonix, and vaul's unmaking. Everything else that stands out in your list really boils down to personal preference. Hope that helps.

InnerLight wrote:My only two comments would be that you're running mages with no real protection to speak of, and that the sword master champion isn't a wizard, and so can't carry an arcane item. I'd drop something at Least on the archmage to get a general ward save of some kind, perhaps the 5+ from the BRB. I know most of the time you can count on Shield of Saphery going off, but you're not going to have a ton of big threat spells unless you roll up fury of khaine, flames of the pheonix, and vaul's unmaking. Everything else that stands out in your list really boils down to personal preference. Hope that helps.

He can have magic items up to 25 points, unless a dispel scroll isn't a common magic item?

Tiarna Fuilteach wrote:Is there some comp to prevent you from taking that ridiculously bent arcane item that auto-wins with a magic phase?

Do you mean the book of hoeth? IF on any double but 6's?

Book of Hoeth is IF on any double, you just only miscast as well on 6's.

Also a Dispel Scroll is an Arcane item so the Sword Master unit champion cannot take one. Might I suggest a potion of strength?

Book of Ashur for 70 points isn't all that good for High Elves. As a Lvl 4 with High Magic you are already getting +4 to cast/+5 to Dispel. I would either go with Book of Hoeth or the Invincible Mage combo.

IMHO Jewel of Dusk is also overkill because you have the banner of sorcery. If you roll low for magic dice, just throw everything you have into Flames of the Phoenix (best spell ever!) I do really like the Annulian Crystal.

Archers don't kill a lot. I'll say it again: Archers don't kill a lot. They are great for taking out t3 models but even with curse of arrow attraction the dice aren't on your side. If you want to shoot, try a big unit of Sea Guard, or maybe even combine the 2 units into one.

3 Bolt Throwers is a lot. 2 or 1 would be better and it would free up points to be spent elsewhere. The 3 Eagles are a great choice just don't be surprised if 2 of them are dead by turn 2.

I've just come out of a Tournament using 2000 points of High Elves, and these are just some of the suggestions I got beforehand/things I learned the day of. Hope some of it helps.

New list toying with, I think it's a lot more balanced with consideration to the comments here.

Thanks again guys.

Archmage lv4, folariath's, talisman of saphery, dispel scroll, lore of light

Mage annulian crystal, silver wand, lore of shadow

Noble BSB, AoC, GW, guardian phoenix

Spearman*39 FC

Archers*10 musician

Archers*10 musician

Phoenix Guard*18 FC, banner of sorcery

Swordmasters*10 musician

Swordmasters*10 musician

Dragon Princes*5 musician, standard, banner of ellyrion

Bolt thrower*2

Great Eagle*2

Bolt Throwers are a waste of points this edition. Take the 200 points and split it between more PG and more SM.

Somebody said archers dont do a lot. Well I would have to say the role you give them is the reason they have failed you. I myself run a set up of
2x19 archers
1x17 spears

As far as the list goes, I think you need to read up a bit more about arcane items and such. I would also look at setting your flanking unit of SM with gleaming pennant. I know that most might baulk at it but your allowing that unit to run around and who knows when they might be required to take a test.

The Annulian Crystal and Silver Wand are both Arcane items...you can't have both on a single character. I think you'd be better off making him Lvl 2, giving him a seerstaff and a ward save, and taking life, high magic, or shadow. Of the three, I think cherry picking high magic would suit you best, flames and either vaul's or shield.