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So a eldar waveserpant rams a hammerhead, waveserpent explodes and hammerhead gets immobilised, can the banshees that were in the waveserpent now assault? or are they destroyed? or just placed in the crater? sorry if its obvious, couldnt find anything on it in the brb.

How fast did the Wave Serpent move? If it moved over 12", the Banshees are dead as they are killed if the vehicle moved flat out and died.

As per the 40k rulebook FAQ:

Q: If a transport vehicle is destroyed in a Movement
phase in which it has moved flat out, what happens to
any embarked models, as passengers may not
disembark from a vehicle that has moved flat out in
that Movement phase? (p70)

A: They are removed as casualties.

Otherwise, sure, I suppose you can assault (provided you pass your pinning test.)

Q: Do any upgrades or special rules a vehicle has cease
to work once it is destroyed? (p61)
A: Yes. For example if a Land Raider Crusader is
destroyed by ramming an enemy vehicle, its embarked
passengers would not be able to launch an assault in
the ensuing Assault phase as they would no longer
benefit from its Assault Vehicle special rule.

So if you are in a Wave serpent, and you ram something and the WS is exploded, you can not assault.

Thanks for the quick responses.

It had moved 22" so i guess they would have died.

Units that disembark from a moving vehicle (other than open-topped and assault vehicles) may not launch an assault on the same turn, and units that get out of a destroyed vehicle are disembarking (Rulebook, p67). So, if you're forced to disembark after already moving then you cannot launch an assault (this is further reinforced by the FAQ ruling for assault vehicles).

Note that units forced to disembark from an open-topped transport may actually charge. Trukks with Reinforced Rams, Battlewagons, etc. can all ram enemy vehicles and, if destroyed, the occupants can still charge the enemy.

If a fast transport moves flat out and is destroyed in the same turn, then the occupants are destroyed (FAQ). Remember that "turn" always means "player turn" (Rulebook, p9; Rulebook FAQ), so if the transport moved flat out and is destroyed in the enemy's shooting phase then the occupants don't die automatically.

So yes, in your specific situation, the occupants would have died.

If the Hammerhead rolled a 3+ , they avoided the wave serpent due to skimmers avoiding skimmers.

And if it turbo boosted the banshees are dead.

Smitty0305 wrote:If the Hammerhead rolled a 3+ , they avoided the wave serpent due to skimmers avoiding skimmers[Ram attempts].

And if it turbo boosted the banshees are dead.

Fixed that for you with the orange.

DeathReaper wrote:

Smitty0305 wrote:If the Hammerhead rolled a 3+ , they avoided the wave serpent due to skimmers avoiding skimmers[Ram attempts].

And if it turbo boosted [moved flat out] the banshees are dead.

Fixed that for you with the orange.

Fixed the other with the red While the rules are similar, Turbo Boosting (for bikes and jetbikes) and moving Flat Out are two separate rules with some fairly important differences.

Skimmers can only dodge non-skimmer tanks. They can't dodge other skimmers.

Actually they can assault if your vehicle explodes and the crew inside dont become paste. When a vehicle explodes you PLACE the models in the footprint, they do NOT disembark. RAW they can assault.

Slightly OT, can you use the Star Engines to Ram another vehicle? I know it's used in the Shooting phase, however, it still allows you to move an extra 12".

No, fairly certain thats in the latest Eldar FAQ, but its disallowed as it isnt a normal movement

Happyjew wrote:Slightly OT, can you use the Star Engines to Ram another vehicle? I know it's used in the Shooting phase, however, it still allows you to move an extra 12".

It is indeed in the Eldar FAQ:

Q: Can a vehicle with star engines perform a tank
shock or ram in the Shooting phase? (p44)
A: No.

Must have missed that. Thanks.