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Fresh-Faced New User




I have been playing Orks for a bit, but recently may have confused myself when I was looking over the Codex.
1. When you get furious charge and have a Nob with PK in the Mob, why would the Nob not hit with initiative 2 due to the +1initiative of furious charge?
2. If you take Snikrot with Kommandos do you get 15 Kommandos PLUS Snikrot (total 16) or 14 Kommandos plus Snikrot (15 total)?
3. Same type of question for Stormboyz, if you take Zagstruk. Do you get 20 Stormbyz, plus Zagstruk (21 total)?

Thanks for the help
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Syracuse, NY

1 - A Power Klaw always strikes at I1, it is listed in the BRB with power fists as always striking last.

2 & 3 - I believe these guys are upgrade characters, but I am sure an Ork player will come along and correct me if I am wrong.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut




2) You take him instead of buying a nob. So you pay for 15 Kommandos, THEN pay for Snikrot on top, giving you another model.

3) Zagstruk - sam deal, from memory. Just look at the wording - if it says "replace" then you would replce a model with the upgrade character.

1) As above - it states powerfists ALWAYS strike at I1
   
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Pooler, GA

1. Main Rule Book, page 42, left column, the last sentence in the bottom paragraph, says that Power Fists and Power Klaws ignore initiative bonuses.
2. 16 max since you are not upgrading a Boy to a Nob, you are adding the Upgrade Character to tho Mob.
3. 21 Max.

I don't write the rules. My ego just lives and dies by them one model at a time. 
   
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