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I never thought I would be saying this, but everything LoL does, DotA2 does better. The characters aren't copy pasted with minor tweaks, Map Control actually means something with secret shops and runes, people can't just B out, and Supporting is actually fun.

Seriously, I hate support in LoL, but playing a Support (Especially Shadow Shaman) is the most fun I've had with MOBA games.

Slarg232 wrote:I never thought I would be saying this, but everything LoL does, DotA2 does better. The characters aren't copy pasted with minor tweaks, Map Control actually means something with secret shops and runes, people can't just B out, and Supporting is actually fun.

Seriously, I hate support in LoL, but playing a Support (Especially Shadow Shaman) is the most fun I've had with MOBA games.

QFT.

Also, Witch Doctor.

Slarg232 wrote:I never thought I would be saying this, but everything LoL does, DotA2 does better. The characters aren't copy pasted with minor tweaks, Map Control actually means something with secret shops and runes, people can't just B out, and Supporting is actually fun.

Seriously, I hate support in LoL, but playing a Support (Especially Shadow Shaman) is the most fun I've had with MOBA games.

I love that people do this for me now..its delicious.

Shadow Shaman is just plain old fun. Alg Scepter and Refresher Orb is amazing with his Ult and being able to hold people in place.

I just hate playing Lion. I always Finger the wrong person....

Slarg232 wrote:Shadow Shaman is just plain old fun. Alg Scepter and Refresher Orb is amazing with his Ult and being able to hold people in place.

I just hate playing Lion. I always Finger the wrong person....

That's what she said.. wait...

And Karon, I'm not doing this for you.

Soladrin wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:Shadow Shaman is just plain old fun. Alg Scepter and Refresher Orb is amazing with his Ult and being able to hold people in place.

I just hate playing Lion. I always Finger the wrong person....

That's what she said.. wait...

And Karon, I'm not doing this for you.

Oh, I can't tell you how many times I haven't been paying attention to what I was typing and said "Damnit! I just figured the wrong person!"

And I am also not doing this for you, Karon


My real only beef with DOTA is the lack of Taric. I find this Outrageous.

Truely, truely, truely, Outrageous....

Ah good, I've long since tired of the pugs and the crap they throw my way as support. If I save their ass it's all their "skill", if I don't and their stupid crap gets them killed it's mine... And 0/2/24 is apparently a crap support score since it's a "negative"kdr...

And their map control... blind at best inaccurate pings flying all over the place at worst...


Had a Sion yesterday that saw Fizz's taunt and spent the next 5 minutes trying to /sleep. The first failure wasn't enough for them and looked something like this.
"/sleep
/s
/s
/s
/s
/e"

All I meant was that I enjoy that I don't have to always say DotA>LoL because I WAS the only one in former threads.

Fun to see how the other's opinions slowly drift over.

I've always been pro dota, the world doesn't revolve around you mate.

So did you guys see the new LoL Suppordle? She comes built with a Sheep Stick.

Yeh, not too sure of it though.

LoL is a fun game, but only with friends. Never play solo. You absolutely must have someone to talk to, if only to complain about the idiotic actions of the people you're with.

Frankly if I played LoL soloqueue only, it would be the worst game I've ever played.

With friends it's a blast, but I am looking forward to DOTA2, wish I was able to play it now.

MrDwhitey wrote:Frankly if I played LoL soloqueue only, it would be the worst game I've ever played.

With friends it's a blast, but I am looking forward to DOTA2, wish I was able to play it now.

DOTA2 is fun, but they need to adjust a lot of things before release. The no Concede option for instance, bugs the crap out of me.

LoL is really, the least competitive of the AOS style games out there. Runes, and what not ensure there can never be real balance.

If you want competitive free game, that is based on skill, go play HoN. LoL is more of a casual type game, which isn't a bad thing, but it is what it is.

The thing that bugs me most about LoL is how copy paste everyone is. Look at Leona and Nautilus:

Leona:
Q: On Hit Stun/Attack Reset
W: Defense Steroid
E: Gap Closer
R: AOE Stun from a distance

Naut:
Q: Gap Closer
W: Defense Steroid/On Hit/Attack Reset
E: AoE Slow
R: AoE stun from a distance


Their basically the exact same thing...

I myself have put a good six or seven characters/unique mechanics on the LoL forums, but they all get laughed at because they are "too far out there", but then these same people bitch about how similar everyone is....

That's been a big problem with newer LoL characters these days.

For every Orianna/Urgot/Singed/Blitzcrank, there are a million tanky DPS characters with the standard copypasta skillset.

Yeah. I mean, Viktor was a step in the right direction (yeah sure, all his moves are pretty similar to other characters', but just try to find someone with a passive like his...), but then they released Sejuani.....

Don't forget Volibear either.

Wish I could.

He's got what, three Ult's of other characters in his skillset?

Slarg232 wrote:I never thought I would be saying this, but everything LoL does, DotA2 does better. The characters aren't copy pasted with minor tweaks, Map Control actually means something with secret shops and runes, people can't just B out, and Supporting is actually fun.

Seriously, I hate support in LoL, but playing a Support (Especially Shadow Shaman) is the most fun I've had with MOBA games.

Not that i'm going to disagree with you, but LoL i've found is dramatically more newbie friendly and isn't filled with nearly as many d-bags as DOTA

Grundz wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:I never thought I would be saying this, but everything LoL does, DotA2 does better. The characters aren't copy pasted with minor tweaks, Map Control actually means something with secret shops and runes, people can't just B out, and Supporting is actually fun.

Seriously, I hate support in LoL, but playing a Support (Especially Shadow Shaman) is the most fun I've had with MOBA games.

Not that i'm going to disagree with you, but LoL i've found is dramatically more newbie friendly and isn't filled with nearly as many d-bags as DOTA

Will give you the Newb Friendly bit, but honestly DOTA has, as of right now, been a whole lot better with the d-bags than LoL. I'm mostly assuming that has to do with playing LoL more than DOTA, though.

Slarg232 wrote:

Grundz wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:I never thought I would be saying this, but everything LoL does, DotA2 does better. The characters aren't copy pasted with minor tweaks, Map Control actually means something with secret shops and runes, people can't just B out, and Supporting is actually fun.

Seriously, I hate support in LoL, but playing a Support (Especially Shadow Shaman) is the most fun I've had with MOBA games.

Not that i'm going to disagree with you, but LoL i've found is dramatically more newbie friendly and isn't filled with nearly as many d-bags as DOTA

Will give you the Newb Friendly bit, but honestly DOTA has, as of right now, been a whole lot better with the d-bags than LoL. I'm mostly assuming that has to do with playing LoL more than DOTA, though.

That's because it's the beta. The AOS community as a whole is really really bad.

Sasori wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Grundz wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:I never thought I would be saying this, but everything LoL does, DotA2 does better. The characters aren't copy pasted with minor tweaks, Map Control actually means something with secret shops and runes, people can't just B out, and Supporting is actually fun.

Seriously, I hate support in LoL, but playing a Support (Especially Shadow Shaman) is the most fun I've had with MOBA games.

Not that i'm going to disagree with you, but LoL i've found is dramatically more newbie friendly and isn't filled with nearly as many d-bags as DOTA

Will give you the Newb Friendly bit, but honestly DOTA has, as of right now, been a whole lot better with the d-bags than LoL. I'm mostly assuming that has to do with playing LoL more than DOTA, though.

That's because it's the beta. The AOS community as a whole is really really bad.

I would have to agree with you.

Those people on lol are really really mean

Grundz wrote:Not that i'm going to disagree with you, but LoL i've found is dramatically more newbie friendly and isn't filled with nearly as many d-bags as DOTA

I disagree. Having finally gotten Beta access I was quite shocked when only one person over five games actually insulted me for doing poorly, and more shocked when someone else told him to STFU XD. I mean sure its the beta, but that's already leaps and bounds ahead of LoL in the friendliness department

I can't even compliment someone in LoL without them somehow taking it as an insult...

When the enemy team calls my Shaco "A biatch", I am most pleased.

MrDwhitey wrote:When the enemy team calls my Shaco "A biatch", I am most pleased.

See! LoL twists people! Insults become compliments and compliments become insults

I think he's always just been that way.

Slarg232 wrote:The thing that bugs me most about LoL is how copy paste everyone is. Look at Leona and Nautilus:

Leona:
Q: On Hit Stun/Attack Reset
W: Defense Steroid
E: Gap Closer
R: AOE Stun from a distance

Naut:
Q: Gap Closer
W: Defense Steroid/On Hit/Attack Reset
E: AoE Slow
R: AoE stun from a distance


Their basically the exact same thing...

I myself have put a good six or seven characters/unique mechanics on the LoL forums, but they all get laughed at because they are "too far out there", but then these same people bitch about how similar everyone is....

Not quite, Nautilus' knockup stun and gap closer cannot be mitigated with tenacity as they move the enemy champion. It's why Alistar is hated so much sometimes.
But there are quite a few identical champions with only a minor difference. For example Fiora (who I've been playing as since her release) could be considered Yi with Sivir's shield stapled on. Yet still somewhat different enough. What makes it difficult is how much they limit themselves by trying to keep the mechanics simplified; this is why I'm not too sure of this new support Yordle and their sheep stick. If they pull it off well it may be able to extend it out a bit and allow some more diversity, or if they butcher it it is another mechanic unique to one champion. Personally I hope they don't make this support a carry/support like they did Karma just because a majority of the pugs build all supports as carries and steal kills with them...

It doesn't quite work as they don't do enough damage and in Karma's case you're sort of stuck in the middle.