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2012/03/15 17:15:53
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
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Came up in a question I posted this week, but thought I should separate out the topic here.
I am trying to figure out when Warriors can fire out of a Raider. If the Raider moves 12 inches, can the troops shoot? The rules say the Raider can fire Defensive weapons (with strength 4 or no strength), but it also looks as if Troops can't shoot if the vehicle moves at cruising speed.
My interpretation is troops can't shoot but the vehicle can. Troops can shoot as if they had moved if the vehicle moves less than 12 inches. I'm new to fast skimmer transports though, and value your opinion.
Trying to decide if Splinter Racks are worth the points if I have them mounted in a Raider with Duke Sliscus.
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2012/03/15 17:27:38
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Embarked models can fire if the vehicle moves 6" or less (or the vehicle/embarked models have a special rule that allows it).
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2012/03/15 17:28:30
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
Mesa, AZ
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bubbinski wrote:If the Raider moves 12 inches, can the troops shoot?
No. Embarked models may only fire if the vehicle moves Combat speed or if it doesn't move at all. If it moves more then 6", it is moving at Cruising speed, therefore, embarked models may not fire. Edit: If I was only a minute faster!!
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2012/03/16 00:14:20
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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A Raider is a fast Skimmer. Is its Cruising speed not 18 inches?
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2012/03/16 00:18:43
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
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No, Cruising Speed is 6"+. Doesn't matter if you're fast or not. Fast allows a vehicle that moved at Cruising Speed, but not Flat Out, to fire as if it moved at Combat Speed. But it still moved at Cruising Speed so passengers still can't fire without special rules.
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2012/03/16 00:21:05
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Cruising speed is not 6"+, it is more than 6" and up to 12".
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2012/03/16 00:34:47
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
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Avatar 720 wrote:Cruising speed is not 6"+, it is more than 6" and up to 12".
Given normal vehicles can't move more than 12" and going Flat Out counts as Cruising Speed (with added restrictions) it's more than 6" to whatever your maximum move distance is. But yes, it's not 6"+ it's >6" for a better short hand.
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2012/03/16 04:36:12
Subject: Splinter Racks
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Tilter at Windmills
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Flat Out is its own category which counts as Cruising but with extra restrictions. It's clearer to keep them distinct.
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