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Has anyone tried playing a game of 40k with those 1:72 ww2 models tank/figures you see at hobby shops? So same sized bases for infantry, maybe 2 to a base, just smaller scale models...would the measuremnets and ranges work? Could probably get massive ww2 style IG battles going on with a real epic feel.

Why not just use a Warhammer Historicals ruleset? Or any of the other dozen of rulesets for 20mm, 15mm, 6mm, or even smaller scale models?

It is generally agreed upon that 1:48 and 1:35 scales work the best (dependent on the vehicle) for vehicles. I have a 1:48 scale KV-2 that I modeled to be a LRMBT, and it fits pretty well.

Edit: Wait, I think I misunderstood the OP.

^Right, he wants to know if you can just use 15mm WWII infantry/tanks with 40k rules. You can, but I don't see the point of it. Maybe 15mm sci fi figures?

15mm 40k is basically Flames of War.

Actually hes talking about 1/72 or 20mm figures, not 15mm.

Theres plenty of rules out there for 20mm scale.

If you really wanted you could just do some calculations from 28mm to 20mm

Whoops, yeah - 20mm, not 15mm.

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Thanks for the responses...I was thinking of using 40k rules because those are the ones I know and own...don't really want to get into a new system, plus the player base is bigger. I have the IG codex so I was thinking about using the 1:72 ww2 stuff because it is so much cheaper..I think like 10 bucks for 40 guys..and for clarification...it would be 1:72 vs 1:72 with terraon to that scale..just to be able to have bigger more epic battles.

I'm going to suggest that if you're going to change the figures, you may as well aslo go for better rules.

But yes, 40k will work (as much as it does) with any scale of figure.

spud wrote:Has anyone tried playing a game of 40k with those 1:72 ww2 models tank/figures you see at hobby shops? So same sized bases for infantry, maybe 2 to a base, just smaller scale models...would the measuremnets and ranges work? Could probably get massive ww2 style IG battles going on with a real epic feel.

40K is a pretty crappy set of rules, if you don't wan't to use the models, then why not just go for a better set of rules as well?

If he wants to play 40K with a smaller and cheaper set of models then 1/72 scale is a great way to do it.

The conversion factor is about 1 to 1.5 if you want to be accurate with the ranges, but for an easier game, just count inches as centimetres.

spud wrote:Has anyone tried playing a game of 40k with those 1:72 ww2 models tank/figures you see at hobby shops? So same sized bases for infantry, maybe 2 to a base, just smaller scale models...would the measuremnets and ranges work? Could probably get massive ww2 style IG battles going on with a real epic feel.

There is a great set of Sci-Fi rules out there called tomorrows war by Ambush Alley Games. I own it and it plays amazing. The game is scale indifferent (so you could use 6mm,15mm,20mm,28mm) and you can play games from skirmish size to large grand battles.

Great thing is the game is scenero driven so no point lists just use the models you guys want to use.

Honestly 40k is not the best rule set out there, in fact it's rather terrible doesn't mean it's not fun, just not that great. The pdf for tomorrows war is only 25 bucks that's cheaper then a box of space marines or a codex. Give it a shot, never know you just might find that you like it. I know I did. =o]

I think I am gonna go for it and build up 2 forces. They even have 1/72 ancients....maybe ww2 soldiers as IG vs Celts as Orks!

For a good review site of 1/72 figures, this should help

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Index.aspx

My razorbacks (and tanks) use 1/72 German WW II turrents. Looks great to me for that pre heresy feel.

See why not you can not use 1/72 models to game with.

I think I will base them on penny sized washers though...using the regular bases keep their footprint a litle large. May try with WFB as well...that would probably scale fine, put 2 on a small base 3 on a large, could probably build up an empire army pretty quick and cheap.

frozenwastes wrote:I'm going to suggest that if you're going to change the figures, you may as well aslo go for better rules.

But yes, 40k will work (as much as it does) with any scale of figure.

Agreed. When you get to looking around, especially at historicals, 40k isnt really a very good rules set. It works (mostly) for the intended setting but isnt good enough for converting to others. If your wanting to do WWII there are much better rules sets.

I think most people would rather play against a My Little Pony Marines army than against some cheap wrong scale/setting/quality army. Hope you don't put any effort into this crazy idea, because most people will just pack up their army and go when they see your "proxies". Even empy bases are better than that.

spud wrote:Has anyone tried playing a game of 40k with those 1:72 ww2 models tank/figures you see at hobby shops? So same sized bases for infantry, maybe 2 to a base, just smaller scale models...would the measuremnets and ranges work? Could probably get massive ww2 style IG battles going on with a real epic feel.

I totally agree and am working on a couple of things that might interest you. Caesar minis look like they do a good line of 1/72 fantasy which can be converted. For the rules, what I used to do as a cash strapped nipper in the Rogue Trader days was just convert 1" to 2cm. Job done.

This reminds me of Epic. You could always look up the 'Pocket Warhammer' thread that's floating about 40K General Discussion.