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So i play black Templar, but with the new black Templar codex (hopefully) coming soon, i wanted to make my own BT successor chapter with the potential names being

1.The black order ( painted black with gold weapons and helmets for elites, symbol as a half gold half red shield)

2. Relic Knights ( white with red crosses, golden grail as symbol)

3. The white order (same as black order but painted white)

4. Knight Brethren

5. Angels of order

6. The head-tearer-offers of the emperor's unstoppable, holy vengeance which will be visited upon heretic, mutant, and alien alike.

Number two sounds best to me...

I would go with "Knights Templar" or "Knights Angelic"

Other than that not 2 or 3, because white sucks to paint.

I would go with Knights Templar


Since it would be obvious what faction it was from and because historically it is also an accurate name.

Scratch that. Teutonic Knights. Get some funky chaos heads and de-chaosify them.

Ebony Knights
Midnight Warriors
Dark Templars

Umbral knights

Nihil warriors

mortis templars

--just some random ideas--

Option 3 sounds nice. It would look kinda like a Crusader riding down and striking down the Emperor's foes. Glorious!

Ahm up fer Templars, but use a real templar cross and not the one used by the Knights Hospitallers (bad GW, bad GW -rolls a newspaper-)

Perhaps: The Templars who were very cross for having gotten the wrong cross.

Jihadnik wrote:Number two sounds best to me...

You said number two

Sorry to say, but those names aren't very good. They sound like they came from some random chapter name generator.

Brother SRM wrote:Sorry to say, but those names aren't very good. They sound like they came from some random chapter name generator.

I find them better then most chapter names in existence, Minotaurs ? marines vigilant? astral fists? Mentors? Raptors? Crimson fists?

Ozomoto wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Sorry to say, but those names aren't very good. They sound like they came from some random chapter name generator.

I find them better then most chapter names in existence, Minotaurs ? marines vigilant? astral fists? Mentors? Raptors? Crimson fists?

Really? You include the Crimson Fists but not the Ultramanrines?

I have to agree with Brother SRM. Ozomoto, all those you mentioned are aesthetically pleasing names. Yours are not.

Besides, Templars don't have successors. Make them a IF successor, have them have the cool templar iconography and tabbards and gak and call them Something Knights (like an actual IF successor, the Iron Knights), but please don't rape the fluff. Thank you for your cooperation.

I like number 2. I think they could look really nice.

Relic Knights. MOAR BRETTONIAN BITS
I agree with SRM and Skylifter on all but that name.

Solar Falcons

Blood Knights

Dread Vipers

Knights of Terra

Black Panthers

The Obsidian Templars? Sounds suitably ominous.

I'd suggest the Obsidian Order, but that requires you don't mind Star Trek fans jumping on you every now and then.

Jakka wrote:

Ozomoto wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Sorry to say, but those names aren't very good. They sound like they came from some random chapter name generator.

I find them better then most chapter names in existence, Minotaurs ? marines vigilant? astral fists? Mentors? Raptors? Crimson fists?

Really? You include the Crimson Fists but not the Ultramanrines?

Ultramarines are another example

Skylifter wrote:I have to agree with Brother SRM. Ozomoto, all those you mentioned are aesthetically pleasing names. Yours are not.

Besides, Templars don't have successors. Make them a IF successor, have them have the cool templar iconography and tabbards and gak and call them Something Knights (like an actual IF successor, the Iron Knights), but please don't rape the fluff. Thank you for your cooperation.

Red Templar, white Templar, they have successor chapters. Sorry but i find crimson fists, ultramarines, and Minotaur's etc really cheesy and not aesthetically pleasing. Something like relics knights is cheesy, but in a good way, and i find very aesthetically pleasing. Sorry if i dont want to have an army identical to every other BT player out there (in both looks and structure of the army).

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Red_Templars
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/White_Templars

Throatpunch wrote:I like number 2. I think they could look really nice.

Ya i think ill go with relic knights





To everyone: I just wanted opinions on which name people think is the best, saying all my names suck not giving any advise is just hating and kinda makes you a tool. You could say something like your names are not aesthetically pleasing, here is one that is, "something" templar etc.

I wasn't meaning to insult you or make you feel bad. Sorry if my wording seemed like I was - I was probably in a kinda bad mood.

Still, I think BT successor doesn't make sense, although I understand perfectly well that you want the style of BT but not black/white - I had the same problem and just went with a DIY that incorporates most of the iconography, too. Of your names, I think Relic Knights sounds best, although something about it still bothers me. I'm not really in a creative mood atm, but I'll try to think of an alternative tomorrow.

Also, the wikia seems to have a lot of things mixed up and without sources. Lexicanum is better.

White Templars

Red Templars

They are not BT successors, the wikia is simply wrong. I'll find you a reference when I am less tired. But the Red Templars are in C:SM, for example.

Skylifter wrote:I wasn't meaning to insult you or make you feel bad. Sorry if my wording seemed like I was - I was probably in a kinda bad mood.

Still, I think BT successor doesn't make sense, although I understand perfectly well that you want the style of BT but not black/white - I had the same problem and just went with a DIY that incorporates most of the iconography, too. Of your names, I think Relic Knights sounds best, although something about it still bothers me. I'm not really in a creative mood atm, but I'll try to think of an alternative tomorrow.

Also, the wikia seems to have a lot of things mixed up and without sources. Lexicanum is better.

White Templars

Red Templars

They are not BT successors, the wikia is simply wrong. I'll find you a reference when I am less tired. But the Red Templars are in C:SM, for example.

Fair enough, but this quote is taken right out of the codex, ``The practice of having an emperor`s champion has spread to other chapters, but is enshrined most strongly within the dogma of the black Templar `s``. While it might not be a successor chapter, the rituals and practice of the black Templar are seen in other chapters. That and the mandatory gene seed there required to give to the Adeptus Mechanicus makes it very reasonable (in my opinion), that a chapter created for a specific purpose could be built from the structure of the black Templar `s rather then a traditional marine army.

There could easily be IF successors that do have a very knightish theme, too - the iron knights for example certainly are one. But the chapter organisation of the BT is unique.

That doesn't have to stop you to create a chapter that is basically a codex chapter with a knight theme, but in practice is split up into crusades all the time. A crusade would then probably consist of one to three of the chapter's companies with elements from first and tenth, and be led by the most senior captain. Maybe they, too, have slightly more than 1k marines due to all the crusading and never being in a single spot together, but certainly not as many as the BT.

But in short: you do not need them to be BT successors in direct line in order for them to be similar to the BT in style and behaviour. And as a bonus you'd avoid having the same argument with other gamers all the time.

Skylifter wrote:There could easily be IF successors that do have a very knightish theme, too - the iron knights for example certainly are one. But the chapter organisation of the BT is unique.

That doesn't have to stop you to create a chapter that is basically a codex chapter with a knight theme, but in practice is split up into crusades all the time. A crusade would then probably consist of one to three of the chapter's companies with elements from first and tenth, and be led by the most senior captain. Maybe they, too, have slightly more than 1k marines due to all the crusading and never being in a single spot together, but certainly not as many as the BT.

But in short: you do not need them to be BT successors in direct line in order for them to be similar to the BT in style and behaviour. And as a bonus you'd avoid having the same argument with other gamers all the time.

BT are IF successors...
Therefore any BT successors are also IF successors...

purplefood wrote:BT are IF successors...
Therefore any BT successors are also IF successors...

I think the earlier point being made was that there are NO Black Templar successors.

However, another Sons of Dorn chapter wanting to pattern themselves after the Black Templars would make more sense in my book than a BT successor. At the end of the day, it's your army, so paint as desired and create your own fluff. Full points for creativity, either way.

kronk wrote:

purplefood wrote:BT are IF successors...
Therefore any BT successors are also IF successors...

I think the earlier point being made was that there are NO Black Templar successors.

However, another Sons of Dorn chapter wanting to pattern themselves after the Black Templars would make more sense in my book than a BT successor. At the end of the day, it's your army, so paint as desired and create your own fluff. Full points for creativity, either way.

Uhhh...
Yeah probably not...
The Imperium doesn't much like a 6,000 strong Chapter going around doing what they feel like. It's unlikely they'd allow them to do the whole new chapter thing...
Though a chapter could easily style itself after them like you said...

How about "Witch Hunters"? Since they are no more, name them after what they were ment for.
I play Sister's, so being called the "SOB" player gets a little old.

Or how about "Malleus Maleficarum", (Latin for "Hammer of the Witches")?

Good luck.

Witch Hunters are still around...
They just don't have a codex...

How about Crimson Crusaders? or Crimson Knights?
Yeah, sounds like a super hero order, but hey, it has a nice ring to it