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2012/03/16 14:06:12
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I was looking at Prince Yriel the other day, and I noticed, that the Spear of Twilight is "a singing spear that ignores armour saves." Now I'm curious, since the Singing SPear has a ranged profile, when used as a ranged weapon, does the Spear of Twilight ignore armour saves, or is it just in close combat?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/03/16 14:06:28
Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/03/16 14:30:21
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes it does - same as DoC Flamers have a ranged weapon that ignores armour saves. You dont HAVE to have an AP value to ignore a particular armour save
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2012/03/16 14:33:57
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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The reason I asked is because a Singing Spear when used at range is AP4 (I think). Thanks for the answer though.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/03/16 21:21:42
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Fixture of Dakka
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Happyjew wrote:The reason I asked is because a Singing Spear when used at range is AP4 (I think). Thanks for the answer though.
It's AP6, not 4, when thrown.
Yriel's Spear of Twilight is still, technically, AP6 when thrown, but it also ignores armor saves.
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2012/03/16 21:36:05
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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If it was thrown against a vehicle would it still be AP6 or would it count as AP1?
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Tournament record: (W/D/L)
Space wolves : 1/1/1
Dark Eldar : 6/0/1 (1 overall win)
Daemons :8/0/2 (1 overall win)
Normal games starting 5/11/12:
Dark Eldar 13/0/1
Daemons 32/1/1
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2012/03/16 21:41:55
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Based on the wording of the rule, and what has been posted; it is an AP 6 weapon, however against models with armour saves, it ignores armour.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/03/16 22:13:37
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Grimnarsmate wrote:If it was thrown against a vehicle would it still be AP6 or would it count as AP1?
No, because nothing says it is. "Ignores armour saves" has no basis on AP
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2012/03/16 22:16:01
Subject: Yriel's Spear of Twilight
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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As it is, my question has been answered, and I don't think this thread needs to be open any longer. If a Mod could lock it I would appreciate it, however if it is felt that it should be left open, then whatever.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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