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So my friend and I just finished playing our first Zone Mortalis game, purely for fun and to try out some rules.
My friend decided to run Abbadon since he hadn't for a while, and we are just now discovering a number of rules we never noticed before.
The one thing we couldn't figure an answer to is concerning Abbadon's Daemon weapon.

First part of this question is, does Abbadon still make the rest of his close combat attacks if he dies from the wounds suffered, or do you treat them like regular wounds suffered in close combat and roll your saves for them at the end of combat?
Secondly, since he gets to reroll failed to-hit rolls, does this include any 1's he rolled? Does he have to roll a 1 on a die twice before he suffers the wound?

I don't own the CSM codex, and really haven't had a chance to read through it, I only knew about this rule because I read a reference to it here on the forum, and questioned my friend about it, at which point we started playing with it.
It really does make Abbadon become much less of a threat. I didn't lay a single shot on him, his own weapon did all the work. (my friend was rolling terribly, I killed an obliterator with a single volley of bolt pistols )

Abbadon doesn't get to re-roll hits in close combat, only to wound.
His daemon weapon allows him to gain extra attacks, and become str8. He gets to roll to see how many extra attacks he gets before he swings. On a roll of a 1 (for the extra attack roll) he suffers a wound and does not get to make any more attacks that round of combat. If he dies from his own weapon, then he just dies. No more attacks are made from him.

So should he be rolling his attacks one by one and stop as soon as he rolls a one?
Maybe that's our problem, he rolls them all at once, and I treated it the same way as a plasma weapon shooting, where the second shot still goes off even if the first one kills the target.

you make a roll before rolling to attack with abadons weapon to see what bonuses/penalties the weapon give for the round, on a 1 he stabs himself and does not make any attack rolls. This happens before abadon makes any attack rolls.

No. It goes like this.
It's Abbadons turn to attack. He has a daemon weapon, so he rolls 1 dice to see how many extra attacks he can make, in addition to his profile number of attacks. If he rolls a 1 to see how many extra attacks he gets, then he suffers the wound. On a roll of 2-6, he gets that many additional attacks, being 2,3,4,5, or 6 more attacks.
You do however have to roll this "extra number of attacks dice" in every subsequent round of combat.
avangingknee has it right as well

Daemons weapons give you +D6 extra attacks per round, but on a roll of a "1" for these extra attacks you take a wound (no armour saves, but you can take Inv saves) and DO NOT attack AT ALL, nothing, for that round of combat

Since I do have a Chaos codex, I see that the daemon weapon rules state he may not make any attacks once the weapon has failed. And a roll of a 1 would be a failed roll to hit, so he'd be re-rollong that.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Since I do have a Chaos codex, I see that the daemon weapon rules state he may not make any attacks once the weapon has failed. And a roll of a 1 would be a failed roll to hit, so he'd be re-rollong that.

Not sure what you were referring to, but the bottom post here has it nailed for how it works.

Lolcanoe wrote:No. It goes like this.
It's Abbadons turn to attack. He has a daemon weapon, so he rolls 1 dice to see how many extra attacks he can make, in addition to his profile number of attacks. If he rolls a 1 to see how many extra attacks he gets, then he suffers the wound. On a roll of 2-6, he gets that many additional attacks, being 2,3,4,5, or 6 more attacks.
You do however have to roll this "extra number of attacks dice" in every subsequent round of combat.
avangingknee has it right as well

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Since I do have a Chaos codex, I see that the daemon weapon rules state he may not make any attacks once the weapon has failed. And a roll of a 1 would be a failed roll to hit, so he'd be re-rollong that.

But he is not rolling to hit, he is rolling for extra attacks

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Since I do have a Chaos codex, I see that the daemon weapon rules state he may not make any attacks once the weapon has failed. And a roll of a 1 would be a failed roll to hit, so he'd be re-rollong that.

No, you're confused.

A daemon weapon works like so:

1. When it's the model's turn to attack, you roll a d6 to see how many extra attacks he gets (in addition to those on his profile and the charging bonus if applicable).
2. If THAT roll is a 1, instead of getting 1 extra attack, he does not attack AT ALL that round, and instead suffers a wound from his own weapon, against which he can make an invulnerable save.
3. If the bonus attack roll is NOT a 1, he just gets the number rolled as bonus attacks and suffers no other penalties that round of combat.

Abaddon's weapon, in addition, may re-roll failed rolls TO WOUND. Not to hit.

Right - the rolling of a one on the extra attacks roll has nothing to do with to-hit or to-wound. It's an entirely separate roll.

Rolling ones to-hit or to-wound have no special effect.

Ok, my mistake, I skimmed over the comments last night as I was half asleep haha, I didn't realize that it's only when he rolls a one for the extra attacks, a happy medium.
Thank you all.