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Hey everyone, this is my first post here on Dakka.


I have recently re-discovered 40k again and me and a few friends are really starting to get into it. We are all gearing towards doing 1k armies for the time being eventually going to 1500.

The issue I'm having is that I can't decide on how to run my Grey hunter squads... Let me explain what I have bought so far


x1 termi Rune Priest
x1 Wolf preist (might just use him as a RP without the termi armor so he can ride with other squads etc)
x2 Devastor boxs (long fangs)
x2 Space wolves box (infantry box)
x1 Space wolf battle force
x1 Rhino
x1 Assualt on black reach (stole some tactical marines so I could refit them to be like SW)


As you can see I have a lot to start out with so I do have options (I plan on getting more rhinos and eventually some Thunder wolf cavalry)


My question on a standard set up (I'll be playing mainly against IG btw but don't wanna gear specifically against them)


x1 rune priest, chooser of slain

x2 long fang squads with Missles


then the rest being grey hunters with rhinos and putting wolf guard with them...


My question is why do people run smaller squads of grey hunters? seems like a waste in a sense and you just have a bunch of transports running around.


I would prefer larger squads with WG so I could run at 9man GH w/ 1 WG per squad so that I'd have more to throw into a meat grinder.


I would assume then the standard SW army is


x1 RP

x2 Grey Hunter squads with WG and rhino

x2 Long fang squads with missles

and just cram points in where you can?



I suppose I'm asking for example 1k SW army lists?



Any help would be awesome, thanks again!

Well it depends on the army as to why you would run smaller GH squads. If you have a power runic armour runic priest you want to have that in a rhino with a wg, so that is why you would field 8 man squads. You should have more then one squad with 8 so you can switch the rune priest to another transport.

If you play a mech spam list you run small squads with an assault weapon such as a melta gun so you minimise the cost of the squad as you want as many tanks as possible in there to pump out heavy weapon shots.

Remember you need to have 3 wolf guard minimum to take them. At 1000pts you should probably ignore WG and stick 2 squads of nine men in rhinos with meltagun, motw, wolf banner and a power weapon.
Take a chooser of the slain and a wolf tail talisman on the rune priest, don't bother trying to tool him out for cc as he is a support unit.

Here is my idea of a good list for 1000pts.
Rune priest, chooser, talisman.

2 squads of:
9x GH, motw, rhino, wolf banner, meltagun, power weapon.

2 squads of:
6 long fangs with 5 missile launchers and a twin lazcannon razorback.

I think you have 25 points left over so you can stick that on armour or some upgrades, maybe a 10th gh for one squad and stick in another assault weapon.

I don't want to make too much of a Mech list for SW but Rhino's are dirt cheap


So you run squads of 9 and if the transport gets pop'd that the RP is in he can just jump in the other etc?



(I still don't have all the rules down yet :p )


Also what about the Grey Hunters LDR of 8?

The LD is a bit of a pain, they do have issues when it comes to taking massed fire and if they come up the bad side of a round of cc.
LD8 is not too low for a basic troop and the rule and they shall know no fear is there to keep them from breaking for good.

I'd run squads of 9 for the very reason you said, I would personally only run 10 man squads if I had Bjorn or a TWC Lord as a HQ choice at this level.

Awesome thanks for the info, I hear lots of bad things about Bjornn though....


Also I'll be fighting a lot of IG mainly... so lots of fire will be coming my way....


I'm really wanting to try out TWC but I'm just not sure how well it will work against IG for the points they cost....



Also when fighting IG do I want to assualt the blob squad or just stop short and unload all my fire power???

You want to assault the blob. You definitely want to assault the blob. Don't try to outshoot IG, they've got way more heavy weapons than you do.

Thunderwolves are worth it--giving a ThunderWolf Lord the Saga of the Warrior Born turns him into a buzzsaw on legs. If you decide to field TWC, remember to give them all unique wargear loadouts. This way, they all form separate groups for wound allocation purposes, so they can take up to 5 unsaved wounds and have no casualties. Technically that's loophole abuse, but everybody does it so it's no big deal.

For doing a 1k army I'm kinda thinking this



Rune Priest w/ Chooser of the slain 110pts
JotWW / Living lightning

Grey Hunters x9 195pts
Motw / Melta / Rhino w/dozer

Grey Hunters x9 195pts
Motw/ metla / Rhino w/dozer

Long Fangs x6 w missles 140pts

Long Fangs x6 w missiles 140pts


With the rest of my points I somehow want to make TWC fit in there, but I've gotta slim the rest of my army to get the TWC beefy (aka storm shields etc)


Is it worth it to field a small amount of TWC when going up against the IG? Or should I just try to get more troops on the battlefield perhaps doing a smaller Grey hunter squad with a razorback for extra firepower?

You have 10 missile launchers and a Rune Priest, and you want more ranged firepower? Truly you belong at DakkaDakka, for you are Orky to the core.

With what you've posted, I'd use the following build:

TWC x3: 210 points
1 with Thunder hammer
1 with Storm Shield
1 vanilla

Three separate groups for wound allocation means 3 unsaved wounds before losing a model (barring Instant Death, of course). A 3+ invulnerable save for those low-AP guns/power weapons to bounce off of. A S10 thunder hammer. TWC come three to a box, so you're not being forced to waste money. And you've got 10 points left over.

10 Missile launchers yes, but my real concern is if they live past turn 1 to actually kill anything and by anything I mean d n IG tanks lol.

That is my primary concern


Also with the left over 10 pts I could give a TWC MotW I suppose.


I'm also a little rusty on fast attack rules, I know TWC get a longer Assualt range 18 inches right?


And because of their speed they get a some kinda bonus?

TWC assault 12", but can move 6" and have fleet so and run D6" and still assault giving them a maximum 24" reach which is nice.

Also if you're running big squads of Grey Hunters the Wolf standard is a must, it just ensures that vital combat you need going your way does so. For 10 points it's amazing value.

Yeah I was going to ask about the standard, it seems kinda.... Meh...


I Guess I simply haven't played enough to see the true value of the Standard....

I Suppose I could drop COTS on my Rune Priest and Put a Standard in both Grey hunter squads (My few initial games will be against a Very shooty, non infiltrate/deep strike IG army )





So It would end up looking like



1,000 Pts SW



Rune Preist 100pts
Jotww / Living Lightning

Grey Hunters x9 205pts
Melta / Motw / Standard

Grey Hunters x9 205pts
Melta / Motw / Standard

Long Fangs x6 140pts
Missiles x5

Long Fangs x6 140pts
Missiles x5

Thunder Wolf Cavalry 210pts
TH / SS / Vanilla
Hammer on one
Shield on another etc for wound allocation



Coming out to exactly 1,000 points



What are everyone's thoughts?

You GH are not adding up right, even with a rhino they come to 200 points by my count.
If my math is right then take a chooser on the rune priest and you are good to go.

Sorry forgot to add that grey hunter squads have rhinos with dozers


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Should I just drop the dozers for cots?

I am somewhat geared towards ig but I have the melta to kill other tough troops, and as long as I can keep long fangs alive they will be cranking out some heavy crowd control against horde and vehicle based armies... I feel I have enough grey hunters to toss in the meat grinder and have my twc to out flank, kill valuable targets or even tank hunt...

How much terrain is on your board when you play? I have a fairly ok spread of terrain.
At 1k I usually don't bother as I move around the terrain with my rhinos and I hop over it with my TW Lord (yes it is a terrible idea but I love the look on my opponents face).

Not to the point where the Board is completely covered...


I suppose the dozers aren't needed, I just don't wanna see my transports not make it


But COTS is probably MUCH better anyway :p

Thanks again for all the help, this should be a fun List to play and be able to fight any army.