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2012/03/19 23:11:28
Subject: onslaught and deep striking trygons
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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In the rules for the onslaught psychic power for tervigons, it says that units hit by it may run and then shoot in the shooting phase. It may not assault unless it has fleet.
I've looked at the faq and couldn't see anything pertaining to it, so my question is thus: If I use onslaught on a trygon that has come in that turn via deepstrike, can it now move, shoot and assault as if I had used onslaught at any other time?
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2012/03/19 23:23:29
Subject: onslaught and deep striking trygons
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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You still do not have permission to assault as you still need permission to assault after deep striking.
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2012/03/19 23:25:29
Subject: onslaught and deep striking trygons
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Sneaky Lictor
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Even as a nid player Id say no. If you read onslaughts entry it doesn't state that it adds the ability to fleet units to assault, just allows it as they would normally be allowed. So I think the default deepstrike rule of no assaulting would take precedance.
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2012/03/19 23:34:15
Subject: onslaught and deep striking trygons
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Well, I'd read the part " A unit under the effect of onslaught may not assault unless it also has the fleet ability " as ambiguous, in that it implies if you do have fleet (which a trygon does) then it may assault. Any implications about previous restrictions aren't mentioned, but whether this overides them or is subsumed by them is up for grabs.
That point aside, what about the moving and shooting after DS?
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2012/03/19 23:38:46
Subject: onslaught and deep striking trygons
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Sneaky Lictor
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Onslaught only lets you run AND shoot, both of which are allowed by DS. So if you cast onslaught on a Trygon that just DSd it could run and fire its pulse instead of choosing so it can still be used as a gap closer.
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"To crush your opponents, see their figures removed from the table and to hear the lamentations of TFG." -Zathras |
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2012/03/20 13:36:51
Subject: Re:onslaught and deep striking trygons
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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There are no easter eggs in that bush.
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Surrender to the machine incarnate. Surrender and die. ++
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2012/03/20 16:24:03
Subject: onslaught and deep striking trygons
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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Cheers- seemed a little too good to be true. Much obliged to your shared wisdom as always everyone!
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