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Now in the BRB it reads that I can measure any ability when I want as long as I tell my opponenet. Now does this include checking range of my throwing weapons be fore I chose a target? I'm agreed with our group you can't measure charge distance because that 3" bonus is not your ability only your speed is. But am I allowed to check my distance = to my speed + modifiers?

IIRC the only things you are allowed premeasure are Control Area, Melee Range and Command Radius for units.

Thanatos_elNyx has it pretty much correct but a couple of additions:

At anytime you can measure Control Area and a model's Melee range. This includes sweeping the messuring device if you fancy. Command Radius can only be measured when required and only from leader model to grunt so no sweeping and no measuring beyond a model.

So when doing a charge the sequence is to activate that model/unit and declare the charge target for a model. Then you can measure the speed+3" for the charging model and no further.* If it's a unit then you move on to the next model and do the same.

When attacking with a ranged weapon again you declare the target of the attack and then measure the distance to the model up to the maximum range of the weapon. This will allow you to target far targets with an AOE and possibly get a helpful scatter or target stealthed models for the same reason.

*Sometimes when the measurement is tight players will agree to measure 'speed+3"+melee range' of the model all at once before the charging model has moved. Ensures that the charging model can get into combat or not to the satisfaction of both players.


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Arggh, I forgot something. I think you can check if a model has LOS at any time. I can never remember the timing but it's either at 'anytime' or 'anytime during activation'. This allows you to check upto 3" into a forest to find out if you can see that model in there, or if those stealth models are more than 5" away and therefore not blocking LOS to the models behind. But you can only measure up to those distances.

Thank you both, our group is all starting hordes so this is a big help

Thanatos_elNyx wrote:IIRC the only things you are allowed premeasure are Control Area, Melee Range and Command Radius for units.

Also out of necessity anything required to maintain the game state. For example, control areas at the end of turns.

Do you mean command radius?If so:

yastobaal wrote:Command Radius can only be measured when required and only from leader model to grunt so no sweeping and no measuring beyond a model.

What about area abilities? Like Megalith popping off a 5" area of difficult terrain from his base. Can you measure where that is at any time to avoid moving into it, or other nefarious purposes?

No pre-measuring of the difficult ground, same as if it's Inhospitable Ground.

Have a look at these articles; part 1 and part 2

Fantastic articles, thank you!

Oh, can I add on here? How does CRA work with measurement? This came up in one of our games the other day, and I wanted to be sure we did it right.

I believe that you declare who is combining, then the target, then you measure from everyone who is combining, then you add the modifiers for everyone who is combining and has range and LOS. Is that right?

Yep, declare the target, declare the model making the attack and who is helping. Measure the range of each model to see if they are in (or if stealth or somesuch applies). Each model who can make the attack adds +1 to attack and damage rolls.

And then you can kill