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2012/04/01 13:43:52
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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A friend of mine here who's starting to get into 40k asked me what happens if Imperials buy xenos goods, and they're caught by the authorities. To be honest, I couldn't really find any material on it, so I made a few guesses:
1) If they're from unsanctioned sources, the goods are confiscated by the Arbites, and you pay a heavy fine.
2) If the goods were from a Rogue Trader, then it's fine.
3) If they're tainted by Chaos, regardless if it's a RT or not, then the goods are confiscated along with you.
Am I right, so far?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/01 13:45:51
Subject: Xenos Goods
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1) Execution unless you're rich and/or well connected.
2) Execution unless you're rich and/or well connected
3) Execution unless you're rich and/or well connected.
Though it depends what kind of 'goods' you're talking about...
Food probably won't mean you get shot but if you're buying technology or other artifacts then yeah...
Probably gonna die...
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"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain  " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
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2012/04/01 13:49:43
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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purplefood wrote:1) Execution unless you're rich and/or well connected.
2) Execution unless you're rich and/or well connected
3) Execution unless you're rich and/or well connected.
Though it depends what kind of 'goods' you're talking about...
Food probably won't mean you get shot but if you're buying technology or other artifacts then yeah...
Probably gonna die...
I don't think Eldar would sell technology, though Tau would...
As for goods, well, she wasn't very specific, so I suppose general merchandise: jewellry, food, trinkets, etc. Apparently, she was thinking like on a frontier situation where wandering merchants - Eldar outcasts, Water Caste merchants, Rogue Traders, etc. - mingle with local colonists and such.
But I don't think you'll get shot for buying stuff from a Rogue Trader, as those guys are usually smart enough not to draw attention from the Inquisition and the Arbites by selling proscripted items. True, there are exceptions, but most of them are probably smarter that that.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/01 14:06:10
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Tadashi wrote:A friend of mine here who's starting to get into 40k asked me what happens if Imperials buy xenos goods, and they're caught by the authorities. To be honest, I couldn't really find any material on it, so I made a few guesses:
1) If they're from unsanctioned sources, the goods are confiscated by the Arbites, and you pay a heavy fine.
2) If the goods were from a Rogue Trader, then it's fine.
3) If they're tainted by Chaos, regardless if it's a RT or not, then the goods are confiscated along with you.
Am I right, so far?
Well in the first eisenhorn book when the inquistor finds out a noble house is willing to buy xenos goods he resolves to bring down the full weight of the inquisition down upon them. So i guess there is a heavy price to pay.
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2012/04/01 14:13:49
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Rogue Traders themselves may not bring attention to themselves but the people buying might well do so...
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
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2012/04/01 14:14:22
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Tau do trade with Imperium worlds on the edge near them, it was mentioned in their codex. However I think that was one of the reasons that sparked the Damocles Gulf conflict, as the Tau would soften them up with trades then invite them to join or just outright invade the planets.
Either way it is heretical and like most heresy, it is not so great for anyone with authority to find out. Xeno tech is even usually viewed as heresy by the Ad Mech adding in an additional faction that'd likely be very happy to execute you for it. Though another reason may be it leaks funds out of the IoM and their resources are stretched thinly enough as it is.
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2012/04/01 14:18:41
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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If that's the case though, why would Rogue Traders be allowed to trade with xenos races in the first place? Then again, who am I kidding? This is 40k after all.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/01 14:23:46
Subject: Xenos Goods
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They're rogue, probably trade the goods black market style. Sort of like radical inquisitors (unless they've been retconned away) which use very questionable methods to chase the same goal as normal ones.
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2012/04/01 14:25:13
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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They are also kinda like unofficial spies...
Inquisitors use them for conveyance in some cases but also in others for information...
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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2012/04/01 14:34:51
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Make your own interpritation.
That's what everyone on dakka does. It's fiction. Make it up as you go along.
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Ever thought 40k would be a lot better with bears?
Codex: Bears.
NOW WITH MR BIGGLES AND HIS AMAZING FLYING CONTRAPTION |
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2012/04/01 17:19:02
Subject: Re:Xenos Goods
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Fixture of Dakka
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I wonder what they did to all the Space marines wielding Eldar shuriken catapults from the Rogue Trader days................
I'm guessing the Imperium's frontier worlds see a healthy non-human trade. Hell, a god chunk of the Imperium's exotic stuff is just alien tech.
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2012/04/01 22:31:11
Subject: Re:Xenos Goods
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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AegisGrimm wrote:I wonder what they did to all the Space marines wielding Eldar shuriken catapults from the Rogue Trader days................
I'm guessing the Imperium's frontier worlds see a healthy non-human trade. Hell, a god chunk of the Imperium's exotic stuff is just alien tech.
Only digital weaponry...and the ones who make them, the jokaero, are the only xenos race that is an Imperial protectorate. Probably because their sentience in questionable, and they're useful to the Imperium.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/02 03:29:07
Subject: Re:Xenos Goods
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Fixture of Dakka
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Unless you want to use very old 40K stuff as a basis for fluff. Then you have Space marines using shuriken catapults(actual models), C'tan phase-knife wielding assassins, Crozius Arcanums for Chaplains used to be made from alien tech, and Force Rods used to be unknown alien tech. Plus the aforementioned digital weaponry is originally from the same time period in the game.
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should." |
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2012/04/02 05:58:08
Subject: Re:Xenos Goods
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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AegisGrimm wrote:Unless you want to use very old 40K stuff as a basis for fluff. Then you have Space marines using shuriken catapults(actual models), C'tan phase-knife wielding assassins, Crozius Arcanums for Chaplains used to be made from alien tech, and Force Rods used to be unknown alien tech. Plus the aforementioned digital weaponry is originally from the same time period in the game.
Thing is, digital weaponry is probably the only one still valid in 5th Edition.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/02 20:45:51
Subject: Xenos Goods
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I thought certain assasins still had Phase blades?
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2012/04/03 20:32:22
Subject: Xenos Goods
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CoI wrote:I thought certain assasins still had Phase blades?
They do. No idea why he said they weren't valid. Callidus assassins still wield C'tan Phase knives, iirc.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
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2012/04/03 21:19:41
Subject: Xenos Goods
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I think that like many things in the Imperium it would depende on the world. If a worldwide civil war can go unnoticed for centuries, a planet out on the frontiers that hardly ever sees visits from the Imperial authorities could probably get away with mere trading for a long time. There was a mention in a short story in in one of the second edition books (I think it was the Codex Imperialis) of a Craftworld heading to a human world to trade (OK, not exactly a super-detailed example, but it's something - I doubt such a thing is technically allowed in the Imperium, though). Some Orks will trade with humans as well.
In short: it goes on, but it's not supposed to.
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2012/04/03 21:24:05
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
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if your a certain female inquisiter then no one has any problems with you swapping a platoon of guradsmen for a pokeball....I mean pocket prison with a necron overlord
unless you're an inquisiter then anything chaos or xenos related will lead to you getting shot :/
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2012/04/03 21:26:30
Subject: Xenos Goods
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DPBellathrom wrote:if your a certain female inquisiter then no one has any problems with you swapping a platoon of guradsmen for a pokeball....I mean pocket prison with a necron overlord
unless you're an inquisiter then anything chaos or xenos related will lead to you getting shot :/
Well I think she has a problem with another Inquisitor, IIRC
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"The stars themselves once lived and died at our command, yet you still dare to oppose our will."
Never Forgive, Never Forget
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2012/04/03 21:29:57
Subject: Xenos Goods
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jgehunter wrote:DPBellathrom wrote:if your a certain female inquisiter then no one has any problems with you swapping a platoon of guradsmen for a pokeball....I mean pocket prison with a necron overlord
unless you're an inquisiter then anything chaos or xenos related will lead to you getting shot :/
Well I think she has a problem with another Inquisitor, IIRC
she did but over another matter. I think she had found some xenos tech on a world that would bring back the emperor/save the world but the other guy virus bombed the planet before she could get there
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my little space marine army, now 20% cooler http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424613.page
school league:
round 1 2011 W/2 L/1 D/0 round 1 2012 : W/2 L/1 D/0
round 2 2011 W/3 L/0 D/0 round 2 2012 W/3 L/0 D/0
round 3 2011: W/2 L/0 D/1 round 3 2012 W/4 L/0 D/0
school league champions 2011
school league champions 2012
"best painted army, warhammer invasion 2012/2013 |
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2012/04/03 21:41:52
Subject: Xenos Goods
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DPBellathrom wrote:jgehunter wrote:DPBellathrom wrote:if your a certain female inquisiter then no one has any problems with you swapping a platoon of guradsmen for a pokeball....I mean pocket prison with a necron overlord
unless you're an inquisiter then anything chaos or xenos related will lead to you getting shot :/
Well I think she has a problem with another Inquisitor, IIRC
she did but over another matter. I think she had found some xenos tech on a world that would bring back the emperor/save the world but the other guy virus bombed the planet before she could get there
Wasn't there a guy trying to kill her over the "presents" she received from Trazyn?
EDIT: Nevermind, just checked it.
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2012/04/03 21:57:42
Subject: Xenos Goods
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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DPBellathrom wrote:if your a certain female inquisiter then no one has any problems with you swapping a platoon of guradsmen for a pokeball....I mean pocket prison with a necron overlord
unless you're an inquisiter then anything chaos or xenos related will lead to you getting shot :/
She did not swap guardsmen for a pokeball. She inadvertently gave a guy some guardsmen, who was so grateful he sent her a pokeball...designed to capture her.
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2012/04/03 21:59:21
Subject: Xenos Goods
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ahhhh, but she, unlike the c'tan shards, isnt a pokemon.....silly trazyn, when will he learn
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my little space marine army, now 20% cooler http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/424613.page
school league:
round 1 2011 W/2 L/1 D/0 round 1 2012 : W/2 L/1 D/0
round 2 2011 W/3 L/0 D/0 round 2 2012 W/3 L/0 D/0
round 3 2011: W/2 L/0 D/1 round 3 2012 W/4 L/0 D/0
school league champions 2011
school league champions 2012
"best painted army, warhammer invasion 2012/2013 |
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2012/04/03 22:05:25
Subject: Xenos Goods
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DPBellathrom wrote:ahhhh, but she, unlike the c'tan shards, isnt a pokemon.....silly trazyn, when will he learn
Yes, he needs the master tessaract labyrinth. Its the only way. 
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What I have
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Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2012/04/04 00:01:20
Subject: Xenos Goods
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:CoI wrote:I thought certain assasins still had Phase blades?
They do. No idea why he said they weren't valid.
Callidus assassins still wield C'tan Phase knives, iirc.
Sorry about that...not very familiar with Imperial Assassins.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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