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In yet another strong display of how committed the Republican party is to their avowed efforts to repeal Obamacare to keep the government out of your healthcare, the state passed a bill that would shutter the state's only abortion clinic.

Republicans once again stood strong against onerous, job-killing government regulation which crush small businesses in passing the bill, which added new regulations that would force the clinic to close. Lt. Governor, a small-government conservative, said; The bill "should effectively close the only abortion clinic in Mississippi," said Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves in a statement. "This is a strong bill that will effectively end abortion in Mississippi."

It now will be advanced to Gov. Phil Bryant, who was strongly supported by the Tea Party (slogan: "Lower Taxes, Less Government, More Freedom").

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Meanwhile they have no infrastructure, real police department, firefighters or fully operational hospitals. I say let them wallow in their own depravity.

I'm more shocked that there is only one abortion clinic in Mississippi than anything else.

In an unrelated issue, package and ibuprofen sales are expected to rise slightly.

It's almost as if all that nonsensical rhetoric about freedom and low taxes and pretending that those are the same thing has left the Republican party completely incapable of governance. Faced with actually having to do something that looks like governance after winning some elections, they've figured making abortions harder to come by is enough, and everywhere else they're just going to let things drift along.

To be fair, it is state government (Mississippi state government no less), and state government is notoriously dominated by idiots or, rather, people with very small, gerrymandered, constituencies.

An old story, but slightly related and funny.

What is it about pizza that makes people do weird things?

Fallacy:

"This is a strong bill that will effectively end abortion in Mississippi."

Truth:

"This is a strong bill that will effectively end legal, regulated, and supervised abortion in Mississippi."

The best case scenario for women under this bill is that they will have the means and ability to travel to one of the states that still offer abortion.
The worst case scenario is the return to hotel room abortions, where the "doctor" has no training, no license, and there will be no medical supervision or follow up and women are going to suffer.

Clearly abortion is the most dire and pressing issue facing America in our economic gak hole...

On a different note, OP is full of loaded words that present a clear bias. Not saying that I support or don't support the OP's position (as if I want to get into that flame war), just saying it comes off the wrong way. Though I like that you actually managed to use "avowed" and "onerous" in a sentence.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:Clearly abortion is the most dire and pressing issue facing America in our economic gak hole...

On a different note, OP is full of loaded words that present a clear bias. Not saying that I support or don't support the OP's position (as if I want to get into that flame war), just saying it comes off the wrong way. Though I like that you actually managed to use "avowed" and "onerous" in a sentence.

I'm guessing you're not a pregnant woman who needs an abortion.

xxBlazinGhostxx wrote:Clearly abortion is the most dire and pressing issue facing America in our economic gak hole...

There are a LOT of people who believe it IS the most important issue. I wish I had exact statistics.

They truly believe that all our nation's problems flow from the divine hatred of abortion. Therefore, work to end abortion puts us ont he road to recovery faster than any othe rpolicy. In their eyes.

Easy E wrote:They truly believe that all our nation's problems flow from the divine hatred of abortion.

Yeah, it's pretty dumb, but them's the breaks.

I don't see the issue. A people who do not want health care don't deserve it.

What about the individuals who DO?

They'll need to obtain voter ID cards.

Expect Mississippi to be seeing plenty more of these lads then!

Just because something goes to law doesn't mean that everyone who has voted supports it, you know.

Not that Republicans really care about the rights of minorities, but still.

Melissia wrote:Just because something goes to law doesn't mean that everyone who has voted supports it, you know.

Why on Earth would I assume that?

Because you said this:

Manchu wrote:They'll need to obtain voter ID cards.

Which makes the assumption that anyone who doesn't support it didn't vote.

Melissia wrote:Just because something goes to law doesn't mean that everyone who has voted supports it, you know.

Not that the parties really care about the rights of minorities, but still.

Corrected your typo

No, Frazzled, I would go so far as to say that the Democratic party does care, even if only because these are loyal voting blocks who help them win elections, whereas the Republicans antagonize minority groups so that they can rouse everyone else to vote.

The church has declared war on abortion it seems, its been the year against womens rights/health, every state has had bills passed to make abortions harder to come by. If women want to protest, I'd suggest stop going to church. Then during the next census, claim atheist.

It will diminish the power these churches have to start these bills and they'll have less funding from peoples donations.

Melissia wrote:Because you said this:

Manchu wrote:They'll need to obtain voter ID cards.

Which makes the assumption that anyone who doesn't support it didn't vote.

Wow, not at all.

My comment actually points out that minorities are disproportionately affected by both abortion and disenfranchisement laws.

Manchu wrote:My comment actually points out that minorities are disproportionately affected by both abortion and disenfranchisement laws.

What? There's not even a single hint of that sentiment in your post lol...

sirlynchmob wrote:If women want to protest, I'd suggest stop going to church.

Of course, there is the possibility that not all women think abortion should be legal ...

Manchu wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:If women want to protest, I'd suggest stop going to church.

Of course, there is the possibility that not all women think abortion should be legal ...

The beliefs about abortion is roughly equal between men and women last I checked-- most think that it should be legal in some cases but not others, and very few believe it should be illegal or legal in all cases.

Melissia wrote:

Manchu wrote:My comment actually points out that minorities are disproportionately affected by both abortion and disenfranchisement laws.

What? There's not even a single hint of that sentiment in your post lol...

You've gotta keep on top of the issues. Last November, people who do vote in Mississippi (i.e., the same ones who elected the clinic-closing administration) decided to amend their constitution to include voter ID requirements.


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Melissia wrote:The beliefs about abortion is roughly equal between men and women last I checked

Mississippi-specific statistics, I assume ?

Manchu wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:If women want to protest, I'd suggest stop going to church.

Of course, there is the possibility that not all women think abortion should be legal ...

My comment wasn't directed at those women.

But in these situations, it seems people will only protest the governments actions. They never seem to want to go to the source of these bills, or those funding most of the anti abortion laws.

For most people, their religion isn't actually as simple as a single issue. Many people would not consider abandoning their communities over a disagreement about abortion.

Though their communities will often happily abandon them.

That's not the case, at least not as I've seen it.

Melissia wrote:No, Frazzled, I would go so far as to say that the Democratic party does care, even if only because these are loyal voting blocks who help them win elections, whereas the Republicans antagonize minority groups so that they can rouse everyone else to vote.

You would be wrong. education vouchers are an example.